Are you a Prepper? (do you want to know what a Prepper is?)

tommyboy

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The Prepper Movement: Why Are Millions Of Preppers Preparing Feverishly For The End Of The World As We Know It?

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In America today, there are millions of "preppers" that are working feverishly to get prepared for what they fear is going to happen to America. There is a very good chance that some of your neighbors or co-workers may be preppers. You may even have noticed that some of your relatives and friends have been storing up food and have been trying to convince you that we are on the verge of "the end of the world as we know it". A lot of preppers like to keep their preparations quiet, but everyone agrees that the prepper movement is growing. Some estimate that there are four million preppers in the United States today. Others claim that there are a lot more than that. In any event, there are certainly a lot of preppers out there. So exactly what are all these preppers so busy preparing for?

Well, the truth is that the motivation for prepping is different for each person. Some preppers believe that a complete collapse of the economy is coming. Others saw what happened to so many during Hurricane Katrina are are determined not to let that happen to them. Some preppers just want to become more independent and self-sufficient. There are yet others that are deeply concerned about "end of the world as we know it" scenarios such as terrorists using weapons of mass destruction, killer pandemics, alien invasions, World War III or EMP attacks.

But whatever the motivation is, the prepper movement is clearly growing. Today, millions of Americans are converting spare rooms into storage pantries, learning how to grow survival gardens and stocking up on everything from gas masks to auxiliary generators.

Recently, the Salina Journal gathered together about two dozen preppers. What they found is that there is a tremendous amount of diversity among preppers, but that they also clearly share a common passion....

It was a diverse bunch. All different shapes, sizes, ages, gender and political persuasions.

Some were ex-military. Some never served. Some were unemployed, some had jobs. A few were retired.

But they all shared a common bond: They call themselves Preppers, and they had gathered to share ideas, demonstrate various skills, enjoy each other's company and to put faces to the online names they use to disguise their identity.

Never before in U.S. history have we seen anything like this. We are at peace and most of us still have a relatively high standard of living and yet millions of Americans feel called to start preparing for the worst.

A lot of preppers don't like to publicize the fact that they are prepping. As the Salina Journal discovered, a lot of preppers try very hard to keep their prepping to themselves.....

They are trying to keep their passion for prepping hidden from neighbors and, in some cases, employers who they said would frown on their association with such a group. Two admitted their appearance here would probably get them fired if their companies found out.

Many people believe that it takes a lot of money and resources to be a prepper, but that is not necessarily the case.

For some, the best way to get prepared is to radically simplify things.

For example, a recent article posted on Yahoo Finance profiled a man that lives in his RV and that survives on about $11,000 a year....

I had an apartment in Burbank and was the typical Los Angeles apartment dweller. I started to feel a strong desire to simplify my life. I had a garage full of stuff I never used, my closets were full, and I started to see that it was costing me money to have an apartment big enough to hold all the stuff I never use.

My initial plan was to scale back and move into a smaller apartment. Before long, I realized I didn't need too much to be happy. I could fit into a small space. That's when the RV idea occurred to me. I was just sitting in traffic and an RV pulled up. I said, "I could probably fit in that thing." The more I looked into it, the more I realized how practical it would be. For what I was paying for rent in LA, I could own my "house" free and clear and not pay rent, and own my car as well.

Other people make the most of what they already have. It is absolutely amazing what some families are able to do with limited resources.

For example, there is one family that is actually producing 6000 pounds of produce a year on just 1/10th of an acre right in the middle of Pasadena, California.

This family grows more food than they need and they sell the excess to restaurants in the surrounding area. You can see video of their amazing garden right here.

Other Americans take prepping to the other extreme. For example, Steven Huff is building a 72,000 square foot "home" (some call it a fortress) in Missouri. Huff is the chairman of Wisconsin-based TF Concrete Forming Systems, and he wants to show off what his firm is capable of. Huff claims that this will be "a home that uses very low energy, as well as having strong resistance to tornadoes, hurricanes, earthquakes, fire, flood and insect damage".

In reality, what Huff is building kind of resembles a castle. You can see pictures of this remarkable "home" right here.

But Huff is not the only one taking things to extremes.

In a recent article, I detailed how renowned Texas investor Kyle Bass appears to be very well prepared for the horrible economic collapse that he believes is coming. The following is how one reporter described his recent visit to the 40,000 square foot "fortress" owned by Bass....

"We hopped into his Hummer, decorated with bumper stickers (gobble Bless Our Troops, Especially Our Snipers) and customized to maximize the amount of fun its owner could have in it: for instance, he could press a button and, James Bond–like, coat the road behind him in giant tacks. We roared out into the Texas hill country, where, with the fortune he’d made off the subprime crisis, Kyle Bass had purchased what amounted to a fort: a forty-thousand-square-foot ranch house on thousands of acres in the middle of nowhere, with its own water supply, and an arsenal of automatic weapons and sniper rifles and small explosives to equip a battalion."

Do you think that Bass is taking things too far?

Well, there are other big names that are busy preparing for the worst as well.

For instance, Robert Kiyosaki, the best-selling author of the "Rich Dad, Poor Dad" series of books is now a full-fledged prepper.

He says that he is "prepared for the worst" and that he and his wife "have food, we have water, we have guns, gold and silver, and cash".

So should the rest of us be preparing?

Of course we should be. Our nation is drowning in debt, the U.S. economy is dying, the number of earthquakes and other natural disasters is increasing, and the entire globe is becoming an extremely unstable place. If you read my articles on a regular basis, then you know that there are a whole host of reasons to try to become more independent and self-sufficient.

So what can we all do to get prepared?

Well, in a previous article I listed a few things that can be done by most people....

#1 Become Less Dependent On Your Job

#2 Get Out Of Debt

#3 Reduce Expenses

#4 Purchase Land

#5 Learn To Grow Food

#6 Find A Reliable Source Of Water

#7 Explore Alternative Energy Sources

#8 Store Supplies

#9 Protect Your Assets With Gold And Silver *for the rich, the poor buy food and ammo* :)

#10 Learn Self-Defense

#11 Keep Yourself Fit

#12 Make Friends :)
 

tommyboy

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So, I've found things like Chile and peanut butter last for a very long time. I don't have much but I try to grab a few extra cans or bags of rice/beans every trip to the store.

Other things to keep extras of would be paper products, because if you lose power your not feel like doing dishes.

Also if you are or have a woman, girl stuff is good to have and a tampon can be shoved in a bullet wound until a Dr. can be reached.
 

tommyboy

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I know, it sounds crude, but if you don't have any quick clot, you ahve to do what you have to do. :)
 

RacerXXL

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Lots of folks are turned off by the idea of preppers......oh there gun nuts....oh there survivalist freaks waiting for the end of the world. Truth is some are but the rest are people who just want to be self sufficient when confronted with adverse conditions. Most when hearing about prepping think oh there won't be rioting and oh that will never happen here and you know what they may be right and I hope they are. However there are things that happen daily that preppers are more easily equipped to deal with then anyone else. An example of such a situation that my wife and I had to deal with this past summer.

April 27th 2011 a series of violent thunderstorms cross Alabama producing multiple F5 tornadoes one of which passed within 200 yards of my home. Large sections of N. Alabama are instantly turned into what looks like a missile test sight. Homes are removed to the dirt on which they stood, power is out over a two county area, thousands of power distribution lines have been knocked down or damaged by falling trees, main power transmission lines from the nuclear plant are on the ground, and the towers that support them lie crumpled up in the fields. Emergency response personnel are instantly overwhelmed and just north of 300,000 people, who had no idea this was coming, now have no power, no refrigeration, and most roads are impassable due to storm debris. Power for the effected areas remained out for anywhere from 10 to 16 days.

Imagine now that you have only what is in your home to make it by for the next sixteen days......can you make it? More importantly can you make it, and this is my main reason for prepping, without having to go out and interact with the 300,000 people who are feverishly, and often irrationally, out looking to find the last bag of chips, the last bag of ice, the last canned goods, the last case of bottled water, or the last 5 gallons of gasoline?

It was INSANE! The sleepy little town of Athens draws it's power from the local hydro electric plant and did not lose power during the storms. So everyone of those 300,000 people who could descended on this sleepy little town and vied with each other to buy the rapidly shrinking pile of non-perishable items left. Short waits for gasoline were 6 hours, checkout at the Wal Mart and Publix, if there was anything left, took hours to accomplish. Ice for coolers was non existent after the first two hours after the storm. Generators sold out completely the first day. The only saving grace was that temperatures had not yet climbed out of the high 70's yet so we did not have to contend with the high temps.

So where were Mr. & Mrs. Racer during all this? Sitting comfortably at home cooking dinner on the grill. We loaded up 2 spaghetti pots with the ice we had and placed them in the freezer to keep the frozen food from spoiling that it turns out worked for 4 days. We took Iphone pics of the contents so we knew where what we wanted was to minimize the time the doors were open. We ate everything in the freezer first and then moved onto our "preps" food which is mostly canned goods. We have 45 gallons of fuel on hand all the time and use it for the lawn equipment and when there is no power we have a full tank for each vehicle. We have batteries for all our flashlights and radios so we didn't have to go out in vain looking for them. We had a small portable radio to keep up with the news.....no internet and all the cell towers were down. We charged our phones and laptops in our cars with an inverter. During that entire time without power we never left our neighborhood because we had what we needed ahead of time.

So it doesn't have to be the Russians invading, or the zombies, or rioting in the streets that causes you to prep. It can be a simple as straight line winds, thunderstorms, snow, ice storms, hurricanes, or tornadoes that can plunge you back into the 1800's and make you want to be prepared. Yes I know the government and FEMA will be there to help us......yep. Remember the last time that happened?

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I'll pass. :rolleyes:
 
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Macland

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There was a power outage here from an ice storm that kept the power down for about 2 weeks. The air force flew all non essential personnel out and it was still a mad house in town. I hadn't moved here yet but my parents and co workers have told me about it.
 

AZhiAZiAM

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Fresno,CA
did you guys see that show that aired tonight. about preppers and the huge hideouts they are making. pretty incredible places that they build.
 

Maxterra

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Ive been slowly adding to my food storage and survival equipment the last few years as spare money is available.

Definitely a spendy process and I can only do a little at a time. My X is pretty decked out with gear at all times and could survive out of the back for several days. Camping gear, food, cooking, water and water filtration, medical always ready.

Love to have a years worth of food at home , but only have enough for a few weeks right now.
Taken considerable time to even get the wife to the level I'm at now. She has a tough time with anything "old" as far as food. If the can is dusty, must be no good mentality.

Pretty well armed, as I shoot competitively and reload to keep up.

Living in an earthquake zone in UT, like to be prepared to be self sufficient for quite a while should the big one hit.

Little things like having the car with at least half a tank of fuel, extra gas stored, extra propane tank(s) for the BBQ, batteries, some water storage and non perishable foods are going to make your life much easier.
 

SnickerDoodle

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Also if you are or have a woman, girl stuff is good to have and a tampon can be shoved in a bullet wound until a Dr. can be reached.


Girl stuff!!! LMAO

side note: GPAX president Stephen actually did the taping or helped with the taping of the show on the history channel.. I believe its called Doomsday Preppers.
 
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AbuseTheElderly

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Yeah, I watched it last night. The thing that stood out to me was the guy had a concrete box built around his generator and someone dug it up and stole it. If you have a Bug-Out Shelter, keep it to yourself! It will be the first place those who know about it will go when faced with the life or death situations mentioned above.
 

NismoFire

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missed it, what channel was it on?

Doomsday Bunkers is on Discovery Channel.

Doomsday PREPPERS is on National Geographic.



The idiots who were on that show forgot one small item- THEY WERE ON NATIONAL TELEVISION!!!! DUH!!! HELLOOOOO!?!?!??! Morons....those guys are the houses that will be seen on TV and will get robbed first.




I finally got Karen on board with the grocery stuff....anytime an item goes on sale/BOGO, we buy 2 of everything. My dad has a whole cow in the freezer in the garage, so we're set there with meat until we can hunt the deer that bed across the street from my parents' house. 2 4x4s, a 4x4 ATV, a pond (with fish), neighbors with cows & chickens, and an abundance of goats/deer will be all we need. Just gotta keep enough gas in the X to get me the 6mi down the road to my parents' house!
 
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AaronsX

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Right now I've got a mre, gas mask with 2 filters, a 6" buck knife all in a backpack ready to go....it's not much but it's better than nothing! Come may I will be purchasing a shotgun and that will be added
 

tommyboy

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unless some one else edited it I'm not sure what you are talking about?

i'm very confused???? :confuseded:
 

Macland

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I edited it.

Back on topic.

#1 Become Less Dependent On Your Job

#2 Get Out Of Debt

#3 Reduce Expenses

#4 Purchase Land

#5 Learn To Grow Food

#6 Find A Reliable Source Of Water

#7 Explore Alternative Energy Sources

#8 Store Supplies

#9 Protect Your Assets With Gold And Silver *for the rich, the poor buy food and ammo*

#10 Learn Self-Defense

#11 Keep Yourself Fit

#12 Make Friends

I was looking at this again and I'm pretty certain that I could get some decent land in Oklahoma with natural water, the ability to grow food, and plenty of sun and wind as natural resources for creating alternative energy. However my problem would be going into debt to afford all of this! Someday though. I'd like to have a little land to just play on, nothing special.
 

Roninjiro

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Reviving this thread because I like play around in this subject, and love to learn new things.

Sounds cool to have land, reduced expenses, and be out of debt... but I'm sure it will not matter if/when the time comes. Anything relating to currency now will probably have little or no value (even gold/silver) when it comes to bartering/buying things you need. For land, I would think a "herd" of people, zombies or whatever will overrun you unless you have an army equal to them with you. I try to prep a little when I can, but it involves more of selling off stuff i don't need or I cannot take with me should SHTF.

I figure trying to stay mobile would be the best bet. I think the ability to clean water would be the best asset for trade, as well as food. Vehicle wise, a diesel converted to run any type of filtered heated oil would be a good idea. (everyone will be trying to find gas or diesel.... but what about motor oil from those cars they siphoned gas from for instance?). These are just some thoughts I always think about... the idea sounds cool, but could you imagine how chaotic it would be??!
 

Macland

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I'm more worried about the economy crapping out and chaos ensuing in that way than zombies. At that point it'd be better to have the ability to be self sufficient. However, if zombies do happen, guns, ammo, and a good zombie bumper will get you a long ways to safety lol.
 

J Everett

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I'm more worried about prepping for a natural disaster. I do live in Hurricane Alley, and I refuse to depend on government assistance in the event of another Katrina.
 

Roninjiro

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Yea after seeing what happened in katrina, it just goes to show you cannot rely on quick response anymore. I am with you guys when there is a need to be self sufficient in order to survive any disaster. My family and I need to do more primitive camping...
 

tommyboy

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Yep, a finical crash would be the worst case in mho. I think the first few months will be pretty ruff with an anarchic shut down of the government.

Zombies, no problem, common sense and some ammo can keep you alive.

Natural disaster is the most likely, Everyone should have a hurricane prep box with enough to sustain your family for about a week. But you say, I don't live near possible hurricanes.... yep but the basic prep for a hurricane will work for all disasters.

And if you have kids, think about things to keep them out of trouble for a week also. you don't want them depleting your battery supply with their game boys. :)
 

Maxterra

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After hearing a guy on the radio talking about how effective an EMP attack on the US would be, I'm a little scared.
2/3 or more of the population would die in a few months from starvation as everything would stop.
The electrical grid would probably be down permanently as there are no spares available for large transformers, etc

Livestock and wild animals would be decimated immediately and what do you have left as nobody farms and is self sufficient.
Go back to an 1800's lifestyle, which nobody has the knowledge or capability to live. The Amish would do ok until the hordes figured that out....

They don't need to wipe us out with total nuclear annihilation.
Just a few well aimed EMF nuke missiles. He said Iran has trained exactly for this scenario.

Makes me want my deep hidden and well stocked bunker with 3 yrs or so of food. "Book of Eli" comes to mind , or "the road"


http://m.cbn.com/cbnnews/us/2011/November/Intel-Shows-Iran-Nuke-Attack-on-US-Easy-as-EMP/

http://frontpagemag.com/2011/10/04/an-emp-attack-on-america/
 

Roninjiro

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.... forgot about EMP threats... blasted back to the 1800's and would surprise me if even a 1/3 of the population would make it including my little family. Who here can honestly say they have a high possibility of making it after that?
 

J Everett

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Well, one of the good things about EMP is they only affect active circuits, i.e. circuits that are closed and have electricity flowing through them. Most boats are completely disconnected from the batteries when tied up or put in storage, and an EMP targeted over America isn't going to affect the whole world. In the event of an EMP strike on US soil, I'm stealing a boat and making my way south. That's my plan, anyway. It's a start. :p
 

Maxterra

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I was wondering about sensitive electronics, primarily such as vehicle UCU's, ignition systems, etc?

The scenario the guy spoke of was everything going black and all modes of transportation crippled.
Within a week, many would be starving and think of the chaos of stealing, plundering and killing to immediately follow.

It just had never occurred to me to think how potent a weapon just a few well placed missiles could be if you want to kill most everyone and bring down a nation. Seems far too easy, and we're not prepared for it at all.

Everything from food, supplies, medical, construction materials, spare parts is now just-in-time delivery, as current business models are minimal or zero inventory.

Nobody keeps warehouses of anything anymore, unless it's a distribution center.
 

Macland

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A big problem is over population. If our population levels were that of the 1800s when the land locally could support the population then this wouldn't be much of a threat. Think of the population centers where no natural resources abound and no modes of water transportation are available. Arizona, New Mexico, and most of Texas would have a very hard time because of the lack of water and resources. The east coast and much of western California would decend into anarchy. Yeah, I'd say this is the bigger threat.
 
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