Rear Bumpers

NMTerras

Suspension Lift
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New Mexico
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Prime

Shut up Baby, I know it!
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Location
Denver Adjacent
I'm back on the hunt for a good rear bumper. Though, I do wonder....why does every single bumper out there put the tire on the drivers side? As others have mentioned, I like the look of the shrock, but having to wait several months just isn't worth the price tag to me. Unfortunately, I can not find a single off road shop that does custom metal work around here. And the shops that do custom metal work around here look at me like I'm retarded when I bring them plans for sliders....so a bumper is pretty much out of the question. Based on what I've seen of the RLC front, his rear would be badass. If he wasn't so damn far away from me, I'd take him my truck in a heartbeat. It wouldn't be too much out of the way if I had a trip to visit my mother-in-law in Cincinnati. But I have no clue when that's supposed to happen next.

Oh well....the search continues.
 
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Steeze

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I built my rear bumper with the tire on the passenger side... It makes the most sense and keeps the weight closer to the hinge and ultimately puts less stress on the hinge
 

TKDx00

Lockers Installed
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I too made my own. However I put the tire in the middle. I'd planned to make another one and the P/S does seem to make the most sence. But that now means I'd cover up a few XN decals.
 
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Steeze

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When I built a bumper for my 1st gen I put the tire on driver side.. I noticed right away the weight of the spare was stressing the hinge being that it was cantilevered out.

The spare should always be installed passenger side closest to the hinge.... it not only makes sense from a fabricators point but also as a driver. When I look through my mirror I see driver side of the back window first... the tire on passenger side is less noticeable.
 

J Everett

Suspension Lift
Founding Member
Location
Houma, LA
I think from a design standpoint, most fabricators put the tire on the driver's side because of the shape of the rear window and the way it drops lower on the passenger side.
 
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Steeze

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I think that is because they're building them from a builders point of view rather than a operators point of view.
 

TKDx00

Lockers Installed
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Who says the hinge has to be on the P/S anyway? For those that put the tire on the D/S I'd just swap the hinge. I put mine in the middle for 3 reasons. 1) Wanted to mount my antenna in the middle of the truck. 2) Planning to put 2 Jerry cans on either side of the tire. 3) Wanted to center the weight of the tire.

I sit hi already and can look over the tire, and I was thinking about adding a backup camera in the future.
 

J Everett

Suspension Lift
Founding Member
Location
Houma, LA
The hinge is on the passenger side so if you have to pull onto a shoulder to change a tire or get something from inside the hatch, the swingarm will not have to be swung out towards traffic.


It's not a hard and fast rule, but it's what makes the most sense.


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TKDx00

Lockers Installed
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Didn't think of that...makes sence actually. I guess that's one less thing someone texting on a cellphone has to not worry about, running into a steel pole.
 

Silver dude

Sliders
Founding Member
I went driver side tire location... It puts the tire directly behind my back, like a back pack you don't notice it. The rear hatch allows more visibility out the passenger side do to the shape of the glass. With the tire swinging clear out of the way it interferes less with the lift gate so i don't have swing the gate quite as much to side. Its hard on the hinge but your latch should take the weight off the hinge once stowed. Your hinge should be designed strong enough to support the load anyways no matter the load. The tires location is just more of a personal preference then anything else.
 

Timrich

Super Duper Moderator
Founding Member
Location
Central FL
I really need to redo my hinge and latch set up on mine. The bolt hinge has about had it...lol

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drbandkgb

Titan Swapped / SAS'd
Founding Member
Hey guys this is the gen 1 bumper area.. I'll move your post to the gen 2 area
Now back to that sweet bumper action
 

TKDx00

Lockers Installed
Founding Member
I'm planning to redo my rear bumper, so this seems to be the right place for info. The first one taught me a few things that I did wrong or could have done differently. That H2 hinge and lock look great but looks costly too. Anyone who has made thier own have a few tips that I can add to what I've learned that might help with #2? Like wall thickness, tubing size or weight distribution issues? Also I looked into some 3D CAD system software and came up with DesignCad 3D Max 2013. It's rated #1 of the top 10 and cost $99. Any designers out there use this or know a better one for the money?
 

granitex

Skid Plates
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Location
Columbus OH
I have also used sketch up, paper and pen, and I have also been known to use legos on occasion.

Cardboard also works very well to to get a feel of size and proportion. It is also a lot easier to cut than steel plate.
 

TKDx00

Lockers Installed
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Funny that you mentioned cardboard. I've been hording the stuff over the past few months. Different sizes just for the purpose of mockups. My wife has gotten pissed at me a few time when I stop in appliance stores and ask saying "don't you have enough already?" I tell her I need a frige box for the storage unit mackup.
 

midget

First Fill-Up (of many)
Location
what cheer,Iowa
This is the best pic I have of my rear bumper its a simple design 2 pieces of 3"x5" .025 wall tube with the ends cut and turned. The center is 2 pieces of 3/8" steel welded at a 90 and burned to both pieces of box tubing. Looks alot like a factory truck bumper from the 70s on steroids.
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Also proof my front driveshaft isnt round lol.
 

TKDx00

Lockers Installed
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Hey guys...does anyone know the wall size for the swing arm? .120 (1/8), .188 (3/16) or .250(1/4). .250 seems a bit too thick to me but thought I'd ask anyway.
 

TKDx00

Lockers Installed
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Ok thanks.

Ben, I've got a 5' piece of 1/4". I was saving it for the trailer but it'll be too short. I should use it before buying more steel...the wife is wondering why I've got all the steel already and haven't used any of it yet.

Yellow... the MEGA SPINDLE is what I plan to order.
 
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yellowx16

Need Bigger Tires
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Location
Rochester, NY
I was thinking about that too, or doing a heim joint setup. the problem with that mega spindle is I just can't figure out a way to mount it to the bumper...got any ideas?
 

TKDx00

Lockers Installed
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You gotta drill a 1.5" hole in the bumper then weld the spindle in the hole. Then weld the arm to the outer hinge tube. Everything sits on top instead of on the face.
 
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yellowx16

Need Bigger Tires
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Location
Rochester, NY
right, but on our bumpers I don't really know where that hole could be drilled. most people seem to have the hinge mounted on the face of the bumper. do you have a pic of how you plan to do it? I like how steeze did his 2nd gen tire carrier with the swing arm mounted on top of the bumper, but that would require a lot more work than just mounting it to the face of the bumper like most do.
 

TKDx00

Lockers Installed
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I'm remaking mine. Going to use a 5' piece of C8x11.25 Channel steel cut at 45* on the ends, cut the holes for the spindle and tow receiver. Then weld those in. Been wanting to replace the plastic bumpettes, so I've got 2 pieces of the C8 for the sides as well cut @ 45* on one end. Basically a squared off "U". Then use the 2"x.120 DOM or the 2"x2"x1/4" walled square tubing from the first bumper for the tire carrier and maybe jerry can holders. I'm ordering the frame stiffeners Saturday.
 
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yellowx16

Need Bigger Tires
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Location
Rochester, NY
ahh ok I see, I didn't realize you were replacing the bumper corners too. I thought about that but it's just so much easier to just do the center piece. good luck to you on the bumper tho! I'm excited to see how it turns out. you got any ideas how I could mount that mega spindle on the bumper I'm building? it will essentially be identical to a shrock rear bumper.
 

TKDx00

Lockers Installed
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Other than on top the only other thing would be to get a piece of 1/4" Angle Iron 3"x3" or 3.5"x3.5" (outer hinge tube is 2.25") cut your hole in one of the sides for the spindle and weld the other side to the face of the bumper.
 

yellowx16

Need Bigger Tires
Founding Member
Location
Rochester, NY
hmm alright. for simplicity's sake I might just go with heim joints, they seem to work well on caspers tire carrier and a few jeep tire carriers use them too.
 

El Robot

Bought an X
Location
Frankfort Ky
My friend has a bumper similar to this on his 4Runner. I've been thinking about have a second swing arm built that will incorporate a Jerry Can holder, and Hi-Lift mount along with the spare tire carrier. I'd still use the Shrockworks base bumper though.
 

BlckHwk13

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TAG gets a bad rep for shotty welds but my front bumper is by far my favorite of the choices out there, and it's held up just fine so far from wheelin.
 
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