How to rebuild the 3.3

Cyclemut

Wheeling
Founding Member
Location
Morrison, CO
Well, if you guys are asking, and if Dave doesn't mind the threadjack, here's what I do. Mind you, I'm running 4.90 gear ratio, automatic with a PML. I'm also 2WD, but I've got other folks around the area equal mileage on their stuff. And I'm at 6000' in altitude, so the lower guys should be getting much better mileage than me.

First, timing. The book gives a +/- 2 degrees. So if it's supposed to be 15 degrees, go up to 17 degrees.

Timing belt. You don't have to replace it if it's not near the interval, but can retension it. The tensioner isn't a continuous unit. You set the tension when it's replaced, but it gets locked down and doesn't ever get retensioned. This may seem a bit extreme to some, but over the course of the life of the timing belt, slop happens and the cams are no longer perfectly in time. This can cause power loss. Considering that the distributor is also cam driven, the timing can also go away due to timing belt slop. So doing a t-belt retension is a great start on getting the mileage back to where it belongs.

Plugs. Stock NGK is the only way to go. No Bosch, no double platinum, nothing fancy, just stock units. I've seen Bosch plugs fail a vehicle (Frontier) on emissions. He just did a tune-up and it still failed. I put in NGK stockers and changed his oil, flew through. Lesson learned.

MAF. I clean it every 15k miles. I don't use anything fancy, I pull it when it's cold, spray it off with brake cleaner, blow dry it with my mouth (insert joke here), not compressed air, and reinstall it.

Hard reset on tune ups. I never see folks do this, but it's important. With the engine running, pull the MAF plug. Let the engine die. Turn the ignition off, reinstall the MAF plug and restart it. If the check engine is on, you know what's for and you can either let it stay on or pull the battery for 30 minutes or so. Or you can have it cleared by someone if they have a reader. This resets the computer's learning for the old tune. The computer will now start off with known good perameters, and with a fresh time and tune, it's like it just rolled off the line.

Throttle body. Clean it. Pull the boot off and spray some brake cleaner on a rag and wipe the inside out. All of the inside, including the blade.

I've never done the Sea Foam thing. I've heard folks say it helps too, but I'm good with almost 21mpg. I could probably do it and clean things up, but I'm a busy guy, I have beer to drink.

Don't speed. Sounds stupid, but it helps with the mpg's as well.
 

NMTerras

Suspension Lift
Location
New Mexico
At 170k, I figure I'm going to be due for a rebuild at some point in the relatively near future, even though everything seems peachy at the moment. When that time comes, I am very interested in, regardless of whether I buy another motor or have this one rebuilt, balancing, porting and blue-printing. It made a huge difference on one of my 240Zs...
 

NismoFire

Titan Swapped / SAS'd
Founding Member
Location
Smyrna, TN
Well, if you guys are asking, and if Dave doesn't mind the threadjack, here's what I do. Mind you, I'm running 4.90 gear ratio, automatic with a PML. I'm also 2WD, but I've got other folks around the area equal mileage on their stuff. And I'm at 6000' in altitude, so the lower guys should be getting much better mileage than me.

First, timing. The book gives a +/- 2 degrees. So if it's supposed to be 15 degrees, go up to 17 degrees.

Timing belt. You don't have to replace it if it's not near the interval, but can retension it. The tensioner isn't a continuous unit. You set the tension when it's replaced, but it gets locked down and doesn't ever get retensioned. This may seem a bit extreme to some, but over the course of the life of the timing belt, slop happens and the cams are no longer perfectly in time. This can cause power loss. Considering that the distributor is also cam driven, the timing can also go away due to timing belt slop. So doing a t-belt retension is a great start on getting the mileage back to where it belongs.

Plugs. Stock NGK is the only way to go. No Bosch, no double platinum, nothing fancy, just stock units. I've seen Bosch plugs fail a vehicle (Frontier) on emissions. He just did a tune-up and it still failed. I put in NGK stockers and changed his oil, flew through. Lesson learned.

MAF. I clean it every 15k miles. I don't use anything fancy, I pull it when it's cold, spray it off with brake cleaner, blow dry it with my mouth (insert joke here), not compressed air, and reinstall it.

Hard reset on tune ups. I never see folks do this, but it's important. With the engine running, pull the MAF plug. Let the engine die. Turn the ignition off, reinstall the MAF plug and restart it. If the check engine is on, you know what's for and you can either let it stay on or pull the battery for 30 minutes or so. Or you can have it cleared by someone if they have a reader. This resets the computer's learning for the old tune. The computer will now start off with known good perameters, and with a fresh time and tune, it's like it just rolled off the line.

Throttle body. Clean it. Pull the boot off and spray some brake cleaner on a rag and wipe the inside out. All of the inside, including the blade.

I've never done the Sea Foam thing. I've heard folks say it helps too, but I'm good with almost 21mpg. I could probably do it and clean things up, but I'm a busy guy, I have beer to drink.

Don't speed. Sounds stupid, but it helps with the mpg's as well.


I put the GPS against my speedo and I'm about 5mph under according to the dash. 3100 is now ~75mph, so I try to keep it around 2900-3000 if I can.

I have a manual transmission and I downshift rather than put it in neutral and brake. I have no idea what the gear ratio is on the straight shifts.

I'll try pulling/cleaning the MAF and the PCV. I need a tuneup something fierce, but I don't have the right plug wires. I bought an NGK wireset that didn't fit to go with my NGK plugs (that never made it on). I, too, believe in NGK.

Nissan is about to start changing my oil for me, so I'll be running whatever the dealership puts in it. When we bought the Sentra, they gave us a hell of a deal on oil changes for me to boot.


I may be getting better fuel mileage than 13.8, but I don't know the formula for larger tires. I'm running 32" KM2s on Desert Runners, no armor.
 

Silver dude

Sliders
Founding Member
I drive like the duke boys from dukes of hazard and get 15mpg.

I drive like a elderly old man taking his 80 year old wife to church and get 18mpg.

Proper maintenence can go a long way. Every bit counts. Not only better mpg's but better performance and reliability as well.
 
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Ricel

Wheeling
Founding Member
Location
Rhode Island
I'm in the solid 13.8mpgs, and drive like an old lady most days. 95% highway.

I think it might have been my wire and plug setup.

Looks like she's getting a tune up again.
 

capt_lou

Bought an X
Location
Ohio
I get around 18mpg, I don't watch my speed so much but I rarely let the RPM's get over 2500.

yea I drive slow, but I beat up my engine a lot less.
 

TKDx00

Lockers Installed
Founding Member
Dave...Did you do this eventually? I've got to change the head gaskets and was wondering whatelse I can do while in there. And Mr. Mut's suggestions will be included.
 

drbandkgb

Titan Swapped / SAS'd
Founding Member
I have been looking for. Donor motor.. I'm looking for a price ;) I'm not in a hurry..

You will need your heads done.. You could do new valves and such..
 
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