5.13 gears for H233b rear axle

[01XterraPhilly]

So I found this little gem today while bored as hell at work. Lowrangeoffroad.com sells nitro gears for the H233b axle for just over $300. My understanding is that this seems like a good price and also nitro gears is top notch as far as aftermarket gears. I would be inclined to get these for my rears. I figured this is a good deal for gears. Idk. Just giving out another option for us.

 

[granitex]

Price the front gears before you pull the trigger.

 

[01XterraPhilly]

Oh I wouldn't pull the trigger even if I could. I just saw these and thought to post it. It's just another option that we have to get gears and whatnot

 

[Xado89]

I think the front is the PITA/Pricey diff to gear. Good find though. I mean, you could grab rears but just don't plan on using 4wd until you get the front done .

 

[01XterraPhilly]

I actually tried looking for gears for the front and it's hard to find. Unless I'm doing the search wrong I can't find ****. Again not looking to buy gears, just bored at work and found it. My question though is if you do a diamond h233b axle swap for a SAS can you use the same gears as the rear? Or are the gears different? I know you want the same gears 5.13 or whatever you put in to match but as far as the makeup of the gears are they the same?

 

[drbandkgb]

Rugged rocks sells these and you have a few options

 

[xterror04]

These are what I just put in my truck , rugged rocks and xterra performance both have them for the same price

 

[Xado89]

The ifs front diff is r200a I think. Rugged rocks has them. Pricey, though.

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[SteeevO]

I have quite a few gearing options for the H233B, I'm running 5.57's in the pathfinder on 37" tires. and it's perfect.
I'd recommend that same ratio for 35's/37's on a gen1 that were originally equipped with 4.9's from the factory.

Let me know if you guys have any questions on gearing.

 

[KBC]

When will the 5.13s for the front come out

 

[SteeevO]

For the front of which truck?

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[Xado89]

Front of the first generation is R200A diff. SteeevO has them.

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[SteeevO]

Yup ive ben selling those for years

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[Prime]

I have quite a few gearing options for the H233B, I'm running 5.57's in the pathfinder on 37" tires. and it's perfect.
I'd recommend that same ratio for 35's/37's on a gen1 that were originally equipped with 4.9's from the factory.

Let me know if you guys have any questions on gearing.

Do you really need that tall of a gear for 35s? I'm running the stock 4.9s at the moment on 33s. If I ever get around to SASing, I can't see a reason to go over 5.13 for 35s. Based on some quick math that's getting almost back to 4.9s and 33s. Which drives great right now.

/as great as 175bhp will let it

 

[SteeevO]

Yes, The idea is to get the gearing and tire size ratio back to stock if possible. Not back to 4.9 and 33's

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[Prime]

I understand that. However, I always thought that at stock tire size the gears were a little tall.

 

[SteeevO]

Ah well you're coming from a matter of preference

5.571 gears on 37's is equivalent to 4.63 gears on 31's which is still slightly bigger than stock.

So putting a truck back to stock that was equipped with 4.9 and a 31" tire would require 5.57 gears for 35's.



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[NMTerras]

I was running 33s with 4.6 and it was a stretch


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[KBC]

Yup ive ben selling those for years

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I mean actual 5.13s, not the really expensive nismo 5.14s. I know they are so close it's ok to use them but if just diffs makes rear gears, wouldn't it make sense to make front ones as well?

 

[SteeevO]

They actually made these gears for the patrol which uses the h233b front and rear.

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[Xado89]

I was running 33s with 4.6 and it was a stretch


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I'm running that right now. Deff notice the power loss...

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[Prime]

Yeah, I can imagine that the 4.6s make 33s less streetable. But honestly, despite the tiny engine, I like the way mine drives with 33s and 4.9s

 

[xterror04]

Yeah, I can imagine that the 4.6s make 33s less streetable. But honestly, despite the tiny engine, I like the way mine drives with 33s and 4.9s

Your 5spd makes a difference also, I love my 5.13 ... At interstate speeds I can actually accelerate uphill to pass now

 

[04silverX]

Yeah, I can imagine that the 4.6s make 33s less streetable. But honestly, despite the tiny engine, I like the way mine drives with 33s and 4.9s

Im Sorry man but I have to disagree. I have the 5 speed too and the 33s just drain away power. The 4.9 and stock tires was great had good umph and I like a motor spinning on the interstate so it will pull. right now you start up a steap hill anything under about 80 and your downshifting and flooring it. If I were to do 37s I would at least go 5.57s if not the 5.87s

 

[Prime]

I guess the main difference is that I have zero hills where I live. Heh

 

[NMTerras]

Yeah mine was 5speed. Worthless on hills

 

[KBC]

They actually made these gears for the patrol which uses the h233b front and rear.

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Too bad. It's quite an investment for new gearing in the xterra, even if you can set them up yourself.A set of Nismo gears is pushing $900. A little silly if you ask me.

 

[drbandkgb]

Rugged rocks has cheaper gears..

 

[xterror04]

Too bad. It's quite an investment for new gearing in the xterra, even if you can set them up yourself.A set of Nismo gears is pushing $900. A little silly if you ask me.

You can do it for less then $800

And if you run 33's it is completely worth it... Especially if your going into the diffs to install a locker

 

[Xado89]

I guess the main difference is that I have zero hills where I live. Heh

Yeah mine was 5speed. Worthless on hills

What are these "hills" you guys speak of? Is it near the beach?

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[NismoFire]

Yeah, I can imagine that the 4.6s make 33s less streetable. But honestly, despite the tiny engine, I like the way mine drives with 33s and 4.9s

Im Sorry man but I have to disagree. I have the 5 speed too and the 33s just drain away power. The 4.9 and stock tires was great had good umph and I like a motor spinning on the interstate so it will pull. right now you start up a steap hill anything under about 80 and your downshifting and flooring it. If I were to do 37s I would at least go 5.57s if not the 5.87s

I'm only running 32s, but I still have PLENTY of go in 5th OD on hills, even on the interstate running 75mph. I, too, have the 4.9s, same as Sir Prime.

The only spot I've ever had to down shift into 4th is that gnarly grade on I-26W between the SC state line and I-40 in North Carolina. Otherwise, I've got plenty of power.

 

[01XterraPhilly]

I looked at mine and I have the 4.6 gears and 31s and instantly got sad. It's great or short burst hill climbs but man it sucks doing the long climbs. There's a road near rausch creek that goes up an over a mountain and it just drags ass up it.

 

[01XterraPhilly]

I found this cool gear ratio calculator online at 4lo.com you guys may already know about out it but I figured I'd put it up here. You put in the OEM tire size. For me this was 29" and then the tires you run now for me 31" and the gear set you have again 4.6 for me. It calculates it and says I should be running 4.9s to get back to the correct gear ratio. Some of you like rugged rocks will already know this stuff but it's a good resource for people who don't know much and are learning like me

 

[drbandkgb]

Nice find buddy

 

[01XterraPhilly]

My 01 has the 4.6 gears and the stock size tires are 255/65-16 and when i went up to 265/70/16 i lost about 4mpg. I also have an auto trans and i want to get 33s but i dont want to be lugging around town with the 4.6s. So to me 5.13 gears would be stock ratio. Just seems for the price of gears and that they are really close going to the 5.13s makes sense

 

[drbandkgb]

Factory size for the gen 1 is 265 70 15R or 16R. So the mpg loss you claim real is about where you should be.. I'm guessing with the smaller tires your speedo was off about 6%.

I've ran 33s on the 4.6 for years with no issues at all.. Yes it feels a little sluggish..

The 5.13 will but you close to factory settings with the 33s but at nearly 1k to install them will it be worth it?

 

[Prime]

If I had 4.6s I'd probably regear for 33s. It's not bad at all with the 4.9s. So much so that if/when I go to 35s I'll only bump to 5.13s.

 

[NismoFire]

Ah well you're coming from a matter of preference

5.571 gears on 37's is equivalent to 4.63 gears on 31's which is still slightly bigger than stock.

So putting a truck back to stock that was equipped with 4.9 and a 31" tire would require 5.57 gears for 35's.



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Interdasting. So if I wanted to keep my IFS and follow DJQuin in his 35" IFS Madness, I should do 5.57s? I have the 4.9 now..

 

[NismoFire]

If I had 4.6s I'd probably regear for 33s. It's not bad at all with the 4.9s. So much so that if/when I go to 35s I'll only bump to 5.13s.

This was my initial thought, until I re-read SteeevO's post. Are you referring to the re-gear when you SAS or for IFS?

 

[Prime]

This was my initial thought, until I re-read SteeevO's post. Are you referring to the re-gear when you SAS or for IFS?

I'm talking about SAS. When I go that way I want to run 35s. At that point I'll go to 5.13s. Because I actually like the way it runs now with 33s and 4.90s.