LED headlights

Makai

Test Drive
Thanks all for the help in my led fog light conversion. Love the wider and brighter output.
I was so impressed I figured why not do the same for the headlights ? What a fine kettle of fish this is turning out to be. I have a 2010 OffRoad. The more I lookup information the more nebulous it gets.
Has anyone had any luck with a straight up bulb swap to bright white LED ?
Again thank you for your help.
 

meisanerd

First Fill-Up (of many)
I went through this site, found the best ones I could for the budget I had that was available in Canada, and did a straight swap. Wish I woulda done it sooner.

https://www.bulbfacts.com/led-kits/chart/

Wound up with the Nineo IIs (were the best budget at the time), haven't regretted it for a second. I've had a couple friends around here swap to those as well in their other vehicles.
 

ffxcores

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Location
Virginia
I went through this site, found the best ones I could for the budget I had that was available in Canada, and did a straight swap. Wish I woulda done it sooner.

https://www.bulbfacts.com/led-kits/chart/

Wound up with the Nineo IIs (were the best budget at the time), haven't regretted it for a second. I've had a couple friends around here swap to those as well in their other vehicles.
Yup, Nineo Gen II are great. A little challenging to figure out the sleeve to install them, but huge improvement with no scattering and no blinding other drivers.
 

westslope

First Fill-Up (of many)
For the moment, I am reasonably happy with the older Hikari 9,600lm bulbs installed in early 2020.

If I was to replace the Hikari LED bulbs going forward, I would put NINEO 9007 110W HB5 LED Bulbs in. Lumens seem to be vulnerable to 'adjustment'. Watts strike me as less vulnerable to 'adjustment'.

I used the watts approach to choose LED bulbs (low and high beam) for our Kia Soul 2015 and the results were spectacular.
 

meisanerd

First Fill-Up (of many)
I mean, technically speaking, lumens is a defined value. The problem is, lumens is basically amount of light measured over a area from a distance, and if they don't tell you the area and distance they are using to measure, you can't use that to compare between different bulbs.

Watts can be affected by the tech in the bulb, how efficient their circuitry is, and doesn't necessarily tell you anything about light output as the lens can also affect how much light gets thrown, and where it goes. And, a lot of these cheap led bulbs, they just tell you the watts off the spec sheet, not actually measuring circuitry usage.

The site I linked does a comparison at a fixed distance, and also checks beam spread, so you can use it to more accurately compare bulbs.
 

Springfield

Test Drive
Location
Sunny Florida
I put the Nineo II's on my 2005 S, and they made a great improvement. However, to get them to fit I had to trim off the rear 1/2 of the OEM mounting ring so it wouldn't interfere with the rear-facing internal fan housing.
 

545

Test Drive
I mean, technically speaking, lumens is a defined value. The problem is, lumens is basically amount of light measured over a area from a distance, and if they don't tell you the area and distance they are using to measure, you can't use that to compare between different bulbs.

Watts can be affected by the tech in the bulb, how efficient their circuitry is, and doesn't necessarily tell you anything about light output as the lens can also affect how much light gets thrown, and where it goes. And, a lot of these cheap led bulbs, they just tell you the watts off the spec sheet, not actually measuring circuitry usage.

The site I linked does a comparison at a fixed distance, and also checks beam spread, so you can use it to more accurately compare bulbs.

you are describing lux, not lumens

lumens is the amount of light output
unfortunately most numbers are not accurate, companies don’t bother testing (with an integrating sphere) and either make something up, or use the lumen numbers provided from the led manufacturer, prior to it being in a completed assembly
 
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Springfield

Test Drive
Location
Sunny Florida
Do you have to modify the harness for these?
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No, plugs fit good on my 2005 S OEM harness. The plug shown above fits into a small converter module, which has the right plug for a standard headlight socket. However as I said in my earlier post, I had to trim the back part of the OEM headlamp retaining ring (at left below), because the fan built into the back of the LED was too fat to fit inside the retaining ring, and the mounting point (silver ball in 3rd pic) is a little too close to the fan for the OEM retaining ring to fit between the fan and mounting point.
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meisanerd

First Fill-Up (of many)
you are describing lux, not lumens

lumens is the amount of light output
unfortunately most numbers are not accurate, companies don’t bother testing (with an integrating sphere) and either make something up, or use the lumen numbers provided from the led manufacturer, prior to it being in a completed assembly
lux is just lumens / area
 

meisanerd

First Fill-Up (of many)
Do you have to modify the harness for these?

I didn’t have to cut or trim anything. It was a bit tricky and I did lots of rotating and trying different alignments before it fit.

I didn't have to modify anything either, just plugged the bulbs in. There was a bit of playing with the clocking to make sure they had the right beam pattern, but mechanically they just worked.
 

jsexton

Need Bigger Tires
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Lewis Center, OH
I also put nineo's in mine, they work great, both high and low beam. Also did not have to modify anything. I did install the bulb housing in my headlight before slipping the led "bulb" in.
 

Makai

Test Drive
Thanks for the intel.
I will order the nineo’s after I get 2 retaining rings.
Just in case Murphy shows up.

Next I’ll be looking into a radio upgrade, way too much fumbling around with the original while driving.
 

jsexton

Need Bigger Tires
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Lewis Center, OH
I also put nineo's in mine, they work great, both high and low beam. Also did not have to modify anything. I did install the bulb housing in my headlight before slipping the led "bulb" in.

i undersold this a little bit. Bought these for the headlights:
NINEO 9007 LED Bulbs Halogen Replacement 6500K Extremely Bright All-in-One Conversion Kit | 360 Degree Adjustable Beam Angle https://www.amazon.com/dp/B06XC168C...abc_22BZNC538P9D7K10N4D1?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1

Liked them so much I bought these for the fog lights:
NINEO H11 LED Bulbs | 60W Halogen Replacement 6500K Cool White Extremely Bright All-in-One Conversion Kit | 360 Degree Adjustable Beam Plug & Play https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01MDOWGY...abc_5PM7BRQXW166WE1HK0HX?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1

plenty bright to where it’s not a significant difference (still brighter, but not like turning daylight on anymore) when I turn my 20” light bar on.

I haven’t been flashed a single time with the headlights and fog lights. I have them pointed down enough it doesn’t blind other drivers. Very happy with them.
 

westslope

First Fill-Up (of many)
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I haven’t been flashed a single time with the headlights and fog lights. I have them pointed down enough it doesn’t blind other drivers. Very happy with them.

With some time and effort I could probably figure out how to re-orient the fog lights all by lonesome but please humour me and tell us how you re-angled the fog lights.

BC 18-wheel truck drivers do not like my fog lights and in respect to them, I rarely if ever use them. Should fix this.....
 

ffxcores

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Location
Virginia
With some time and effort I could probably figure out how to re-orient the fog lights all by lonesome but please humour me and tell us how you re-angled the fog lights.

BC 18-wheel truck drivers do not like my fog lights and in respect to them, I rarely if ever use them. Should fix this.....
If they’re OEM there is an adjustment screw on one of the bottom sides/corners.
 

jsexton

Need Bigger Tires
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Location
Lewis Center, OH
With some time and effort I could probably figure out how to re-orient the fog lights all by lonesome but please humour me and tell us how you re-angled the fog lights.

BC 18-wheel truck drivers do not like my fog lights and in respect to them, I rarely if ever use them. Should fix this.....

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General_Tarfun

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Atlanta, GA
I can't speak to the quality of other brands but the 9007/9004: GTR Ultra Series 2.0 I bought from the retrofitsource are comparable or better with no glare for oncoming traffic.
 
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