For those running revolvers???

[lbishop]

Gonna be pulling the trigger on revolvers, Its says I need extgended brake cables, just wanna make sure I have the right ones picked out. Does it matter if I run either of these, which is my best bet?
https://www.4x4parts.com/nissan/27-inch-stainless-steel-braided-rear-brake-line-p-5304.html
https://www.4x4parts.com/nissan/27-inch-long-black-rear-brake-line-p-4288.html

thanks for the help


Only thing going on the truck right now are revolvers, on the do list are
aal
new upper control arms

 

[TheFauxFox]

The braided lines are more likely to last longer, but at the rate that people ACTUALLY go through brake lines, either should work.

 

[Xterraforce]

Unless you have longer travel shocks you should be fine anyway. The stock shocks will limit the downward travel so you shouldn't be putting any strain on the brake hose. I believe I read that TJTJ wasn't even able to get the revolvers to fully open with the long travel shocks and AAL. It wasn't until he relocated the shock mounts that he was able to get full extension because of the shocks being the limiting factor. Of course I'd still go with the new longer line with longer travel shocks, especially once the AAL is done. Of course you can't go wrong doing it now then it will already be in place for any future mods.

 

[lbishop]

Thanks for the replies

I been looking around at those running revolvers and kinda figured my shocks were gonna be a limiting factor. (3 inch lift bilstein hds).
The aal and stuff for the front is coming later on. Just having to do it a piece at time.


I think the 57.50 one is gonna be my winner lol
https://www.4x4parts.com/nissan/27-inch-long-black-rear-brake-line-p-4288.html

 

[drbandkgb]

Many that add these end up hitting the cross member with the drive shaft too... Hit up RacerXXL about his..

 

[DC xterra]

your gona have to modify the cross member, meaning cutting or/and hammering it to make more room for the drive shaft when is droops down. without longer shocks and modded cross member you wont get much outta revolver shackles

 

[SAKS]

Holly crap I thought this was about guns. Sorry.

 

[lbishop]

@saks, no worries man

anyways, I talked to racerxxl and caseycamby about the revolvers,

going by what they said, ill have to put them on the truck and see if I have any issues with hittin the cross member or little clearance. Just depends on your truck.

@damian, racerxxl brought that up too (definately gonna have to be addressed), eventually i'm gonna change my rear shocks out to longer bilsteins. Im just kinda of stuck with 3 inch hd bilsteins, until the funds permit me to swap them out.

*I guess you basically say im finishin out my pml with revolver shackles for the time being

thanks for the help yall, definately gonna be pulling the trigger on these now

 

[lbishop]

Revolvers ordered today, along with the extended rear brake line :d.... Pictures coming as soon as I get them

 

[Acasper708]

If you want to get the most out of those revolvers then u need to consider triangulating you rear shocks or goin through the floor with the mounts so u can fit the length u need.

Angle the shocks will make it ride like crap but u will kill u cargo space if u run shocks thru the floor. But I wouldn't get revolvers if I didnt plan on getting correct length shocks.

 

[lbishop]

Is one of the above pictures, TJ's rig??? I know he moved his shocks around or trianglelated them to get the revolvers to open all the way. I would like to do that to mine but right now it aint quite in the cards for mine yet...

That through the floor set is freaking awesome, whose rig is that?

Anything else info. wise or advice wise is more than welcome, keep it coming lol

thanks again

 

[Roadwarrior]

Newb speaking here.. Can you not triangulate the long shocks and then leave the shorter shocks.. When you get to the trail just pull the shorts and run the longs?

 

[lbishop]

Newb speaking here.. Can you not triangulate the long shocks and then leave the shorter shocks.. When you get to the trail just pull the shorts and run the longs?

Basically have 2 different shock mounts? Keep the normal tabs in place for on-road and weld tabs that have been triangulated for your off-road shocks? Or did I totally miss what you were asking? lol

 

[Roadwarrior]

Basically have 2 different shock mounts? Keep the normal tabs in place for on-road and weld tabs that have been triangulated for your off-road shocks? Or did I totally miss what you were asking? lol

Nope, that's exactly what I was saying.

 

[lbishop]

That seems like a good idea, I haven't heard of anybody running a setup like this though.... I guess a dedicated trail rig aint gonna worry about losing a decent on-road ride, when you triangulate the shocks.

I like the idea of this set-up though since mine pulls daily driver duties. I know racerxxl and caseycamby are running revolvers with 3 pack aal, and that seems to be a pretty good set-up too. May go that route for now. Idk I gotta get them here 1st

 

[lbishop]

A little more info. about revolvers, or if anybody is considering them


Just out of curiosity, I sent AC an email about the setup their running on there project xterra

heres the reply:
Thank you for your order, you are correct we use the 3 leaf add a leaf in conjunction with revolvers to give them correct angle to run and we did not have to alter the shock mounts, just used much longer shocks in the rear, they are the one's we have listed for articulator package on our web page. You will also need to have extended brake line, and axle breather line and it is recommended to have limiting straps to keep the rear drive shaft from touching the crossmember when rear axle is at full droop, in case you go airborne and have both revolvers open up.

 

[lbishop]

UPS guy deliveried my revolvers and extended rear brake line yesterday :d

Hopin to get these on end of the week or this weekend



Next item on the agenda is the aal to go with them. I was leaning calmini single aal. When I hit up racerxxl about the crossmember issue, he told me to go with the 3 pack aal, (same set-up caseycamby, and TJ are running), or having a custom set of Alcan springs made.

Heres a thread that has pictures of a rig with revolvers and a single aal.
http://www.clubxterra.org/forums/showthread.php?t=34175


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[xterror04]

I have the Alcan aal from prg they flex and ride great

 

[lbishop]

@xterror04, I looked through your build thread, got a question though? Are you running this aal
w/ the smallest spring from the stock pack?
http://www.prgproducts.com/shop/product/2_prg_deaver_xterra_2-leaf_spring_pack/....
& you said you got about 2.5 inches of lift from this set-up?


How do you think this set-up would do with revolvers?


thanks

 

[xterror04]

Yeah that's what I'm running, that will lift it around 1.75 to 2.25" I also added an additional leaf from a gen 2, my leaves were pretty bad, if you just added those I bet you'd be around 2"... They would do fine with revolvers, I'd think you'd want the fewest amount of leaves possible for best flex

 

[lbishop]

thanks for clearing that up.... I think thatll be the route I go with mine.... I looked at the 3 pack aal but im on the fence about how high it raises the rear of the truck

 

[Xterraforce]

I have a question I've been wondering about for some time but haven't seen an answer. AC says to run revolvers you must have either an aal or the 3 pack aal. Why is that or is it just suggested and not really a have to do kind of thing? I realize to get the most out of the revolvers other things need to be changed but haven't figured out why they wouldn't work at least a little with only stock rear springs.

 

[TheFauxFox]

... haven't figured out why they wouldn't work at least a little with only stock rear springs.

You don't want your springs as your bump stops.

 

[lbishop]

I plan on running basically the same aal as xterror04.... Just minus the xtra leaf he has throwed in there

I dont know if you would have issues on the stock pack with revolvers, I would think the shocks would max out before you ran into issues.... I haven't seen anything that says you cant run a stock pack with revolvers.

 

[TheFauxFox]

I mean, that's the problem. I reread my statement and realized I said something different from what I meant.

You don't want your shocks acting as your limiting agent on neither droop nor compression. The AAL will absorb the additional shock.

 

[Trexx]

wish some 2nd gens were running these... i want a review but idk who runs them on a 2nd gen

 

[Xterraforce]

I mean, that's the problem. I reread my statement and realized I said something different from what I meant.

You don't want your shocks acting as your limiting agent on neither droop nor compression. The AAL will absorb the additional shock.

This makes sense. I currently have longer than stock Ranchos and seriously hope I'll be able to do the articulator suspension from AC soon which would make my question irrelevant for my X anyway. This from AC's website is what got me wondering some time ago:

The following products are required and sold separately when installing Revolver Shackles:

Add-a-leaf or 3 Leaf Add A Leaf Pack
Longer Shocks
Rear Brake Lines


I'm thinking as long as limiting straps were used along with longer shocks the stock spring pack might be fine, but it might also limit the benefits of the revolvers to the point of not being worth it. The word "required" made me think it wasn't possible for some reason. I like my level stance and was thinking about going with the articulator kit and try only using two of the three pack. Now I'm wondering if I should just to the single AAL. So much to think about.

Thanks for the replies.

 

[lbishop]

the link i put up a couple post back is Bac0nfat's rig, hes running revolvers w/ single aal I like the stance that rig.... Or you could run the second gen aal xterror04 is running + smallest leaf from the stock pack (most likely route im going) would lift it about 2 inches.... Then theres the 3 pack aal from AC.... The only other option is gonna be a custom set of Alcan springs

 

[lbishop]

I cant remember where I seen it but didn't racerxxl say to put Loctite on a piece of these shackles? or did I make that up?