Idler arms

[xterror04]

Does anyone have experience with the moog idler arm? I put one on yesterday due to mine being toast and the design is a lot different then stock, you cannot use a iab with it... But it is shorter and greaseable and seems stout... Made my steering feel like a sports car. Lol

See pic
Check out this photo from Snapbucket: http://pbckt.com/p1.QUPHhF

 

[midget]

Looks like alot better design than factory, gets rid of the weak spot in thestock style IA.
I stand by my grease the hell out of it stand point but I think you and I are on the same page with that.

 

[Muadeeb]

For those looking for this, it's part K9500 and you can find it by searching for a 1995 Pathy.

 

[Roadwarrior]

I like that. What's the price on that? As it would be cheaper than buying the IAB and then later upgrading

 

[yellowbug]

Looks a lot better.

 

[TheFauxFox]

I like that. What's the price on that? As it would be cheaper than buying the IAB and then later upgrading

This. Muadeeb, are you saying its the Pathfinder IA? I'm confused.

 

[yellowbug]

Advanced price is 111.99

 

[TheFauxFox]

Advanced price is 111.99

If its the same, the price on Rock Auto is $60.00

 

[yellowbug]

After doing some research I found it here at 70 but rock auto is still cheaper. This says frontier in the discription but the article talks about the x

http://www.racepages.com/parts/idler_arm/nissan/xterra_4wd_v6.html

 

[Muadeeb]

I did some searching to find it, because MOOG doesn't list an Idler Arm for a 1st gen X. It's designed for the Hardbody Pickups and the 1st gen Pathy; the 2nd gen Pathy doesn't list an Idler Arm, and the 1nd Gen Frontier shows the stock style arm.

I'm not a mechanical engineer at all, but it looks like the stock arm's lever action is gone with the Moog arm. I am interested to know how well this will hold up since it's not officially for our trucks. Maybe a revisit after a Moab trip?

edit:
Link to the site where I found my info. Next to last post http://www.automotiveforums.com/t35871-moog_idler_arm_pn__.html

 

[RacerXXL]

Hmmm I would think that the idler arm with an IAB is going to be better then that one.

 

[midget]

Hmmm I would think that the idler arm with an IAB is going to be better then that one.

How so? Please explain bc it looks to be they have eliminated the weak spot of the Idler arm no to mention the swivel on that one should stay tighter way longer than the cheap plastic crap they stuff in factory IA

 

[J Everett]

The IAB gives you the protection of having a double shear point instead of single. That alone makes it more than twice as strong as any idler arm without the IAB. The MOOG idler arm doesn't put as much levered force on the pivot point, but it's still a single shear and more prone to failure.

Single shear vs. double shear

 

[RacerXXL]

How so? Please explain bc it looks to be they have eliminated the weak spot of the Idler arm no to mention the swivel on that one should stay tighter way longer than the cheap plastic crap they stuff in factory IA

Well the first thing to do with the plastic bushings would be to throw them in the trash where they belong and replace them with Bandit bushings. The bushings direct movement, they allow the arm to spin on it's axis. Without the IAB the arm has the potential to do more then just rotate on it's axis as one end of the shaft is not captive. With the IAB in place the arm can only do what it was intended to do and that is rotate as both ends of the shaft are now captive.

 

[midget]

The way I look at it is similar to a crossover steering setup. The stronger setup uses a tie rod end but most guys use a double sheared Heim bc its as strong but gets weak and sloppy over time. I understand the hole single vs double shear arguement and 9 times out of 10 I would agree but just not in this instance.