Factory Speaker Replacement

NismoFire

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I have heard that the factory Fosgate amplifier will only work with the factory Fosgate speakers...is this true?

I'm looking to take the Memphis Audio speakers out of the Civic before we sell it to put them in my truck.
 

BlOwNXT

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Sweetwater, TN
I don't think it would matter. Amps don't know what kind of speakers are ran to it nor does it know what brand the amp is itself. People mix match all the time. Now wether it has the power to push them is a different story :)

Edit: even being factory I don't think it should matter but I could be wrong!


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NismoFire

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See, that's my logic...but I've seen a bunch of guys on CX have issues with aftermarket speakers with the factory amp. I think it's a 300 or 350W amp, so it SHOULD be able to handle them.
 

BlOwNXT

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I can't see what issues would come up. I have helped a local radio shop to do installs before and we were all the time replacing factory speakers such as Fosgate, Bose, Infinity, etc. with others using factory amps and never had any issues.

Someone else may chime in with a different thought but I see no issues.3


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J Everett

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The problems those people have had has been with mismatching speaker resistance. Most automotive speakers are 4-ohm speakers, but I believe the RF system uses 2-ohm speakers (I'm not 100% certain of this info; you would need to pull an actual speaker and see if it has the resistance labeled on it, or hook it up to a multimeter and measure the actual resistance). Lower resistance in the speakers means you get more volume with less power. If you shop around really hard, you can find 2-ohm speakers, but they'll be on the pricey side.

To be perfectly honest, the RF system's amp isn't that great. It distorts badly at about 3/4 of max volume, whereas a high quality amp won't distort at all or only above 90% of max power. If you're looking for good sound quality at higher volumes, replace the amp and the speakers.
 

Roadwarrior

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Well J beat me to it, but I believe that the RF amp runs at 2 ohms, where most aftermarket speakers run at 4 ohms.

You could up the resistance by running a smaller gauge wire, but then you run the risk or setting your car on fire (SO DON'T DO THAT). I would look into the resistance of your amp, and base your aftermarket speakers on that resistance
 

rjr162

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Alexandria, PA
The problems those people have had has been with mismatching speaker resistance. Most automotive speakers are 4-ohm speakers, but I believe the RF system uses 2-ohm speakers (I'm not 100% certain of this info; you would need to pull an actual speaker and see if it has the resistance labeled on it, or hook it up to a multimeter and measure the actual resistance). Lower resistance in the speakers means you get more volume with less power. If you shop around really hard, you can find 2-ohm speakers, but they'll be on the pricey side.

To be perfectly honest, the RF system's amp isn't that great. It distorts badly at about 3/4 of max volume, whereas a high quality amp won't distort at all or only above 90% of max power. If you're looking for good sound quality at higher volumes, replace the amp and the speakers.

Almost :)

Its the sensitivity rating of a speaker that determines how much output volume you get at an equivalent power input (typically measured at 1w from 1 meter)

The ohms is a measure of impedance (similar to resistance but not quite the same).

Using a 4 ohm speaker should work fine.. I've done it in jeeps etc a lot of the years in systems that have factory 2 ohm speakers. But typically when you increase the impedance from say 2 ohms to 4 ohms, the amp outputs half the power to that speaker.

That's why if you read most after market amp specs they'll say like 200 watts RMS @ 4 ohms, 400 watts RMS @ 2 ohms (or 350 watts at 2 ohms but you get the idea)

Typically going up in ohms won't hurt the amp, but will decrease its power output.

The issue is if the stock amp setup had 4 ohm speakers and you replace them with 2 ohm speakers. While this may increase the power output, it puts a lot more stress on the transistors and other components and can cause the amp to over heat, go into protect, etc.

So yes, replacing the stock 2 ohm RF speakers (if they are infact 2 ohms) with 4 ohms should work fine, but you may notice a decrease in volume.

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