NMTerras
Suspension Lift
- Location
- New Mexico
What did you end up doing?
What did you end up doing?
Just keeping my truck as is, and when it comes time I'll do a BL. I don't have the money to finish an SAS. But, if you're concerned with power, the Better Xterra platform is the 2nd Gen.
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I guess this is the right thread for this question...
Leaf or Coil over?!?! What's best and why?
I ask because if I actually do get the money for this in the future I'm really considering buying a set of new axles rather than trying to find and referbish an old set to save tme and headache.
Axles can be debated until the end of the world. Those that want to run D60's on our trucks are really never going to change their minds. They think they are the better choice of axle for their application. That's cool, and I see some of their points. Personally I won't run them and think they are a waste of weight unless you have a rig with 500 hp+ (now an X with that much HP would just be fun...Hmmmmmmm...) HP D44 is my axle of choice. FW or cut down they fit any application you can desire. A Jana 54 Kit and a set of RCV Axkes and your not gonna break the 44. Some will even argue that it's stronger then a 60 at that point. I've seen 44's with 40's no problems, and yes, they were beat on.
Suspension, leafs are tried, true and been shown to work pretty dam well. That said they haven't changed since they were developed, back in medieval times (before cars people, we're talking castles and dragons and ****.....ok, not dragons, but you get the point) and are therefor OLD F-ING TECHNOLOGY. If your gonna do this much work to a rig, why would you want to put a technology on it that is several hundred years old??????? Coild springs are a cheap and good way to go, and coilovers are even better.
Of course, all of this is just my opinion, so take it for just that.
Cheers,
Josh
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Aramis
... Suspension, leafs are tried, true and been shown to work pretty dam well. That said they haven't changed since they were developed, back in medieval times (before cars people, we're talking castles and dragons and ****.....ok, not dragons, but you get the point) and are therefor OLD F-ING TECHNOLOGY. If your gonna do this much work to a rig, why would you want to put a technology on it that is several hundred years old??????? Coild springs are a cheap and good way to go, and coilovers are even better.
Of course, all of this is just my opinion, so take it for just that.
I know leafs can be make to work well. Ryan Gee as well as TONS of other wheelers have done it, including myself back in the day. I've just come to the frame of mind that there are so many better choices nowadays that I would rather do.
What's your choice for motor swap?
Cheers,
Josh
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Aramis
As to the statement that our stock rear ends aren't strong enough to run 37s (I think it was Edo that said that), I disagree with that also. the h233b is a sturdy rear end, stronger than the 44s or Ford 9" rears.
^^^I suppose that is a potential concern. If I were going to run 37s with stock rear end, I'd run 5.13 or 5.14 gears (not ideal, I know) and have crawler gears.
Anyone tried running 37s with the H233b rear yet? Comments? I think Alpine swapped his rear, but as i type this I'm not sure
Again, WRF has. Look at his build (if you can find it still). He had 37" MTRs with 5.14s and chromo shafts. No T-case gears that I saw.
I know leafs can be make to work well. Ryan Gee as well as TONS of other wheelers have done it, including myself back in the day. I've just come to the frame of mind that there are so many better choices nowadays that I would rather do.
What's your choice for motor swap?
Cheers,
Josh
&
Aramis
I have to take measurements still, but I'm aiming for a GM 5.3L V8 with a matching tranny, and transfer case.
If you SAS and move the axle forward a touch (which you have to do since your running bigger tires) you can use a rear sump engine. Also, you can switch just about any V8 from front to rear sump and visa-versa. So don't limit your engine choice on that (thought the 302 is one of my favorites.)
Cheers,
JP
If you are going to run 35s, whats the ideal width on the axle? Also should you run spacers on top of that axle to get a wider stance?
I'm asking for future reference, I want to build an overland rig like Casper has.
There are a couple of it depends answers there...
If your axle is the width you want, then no spacers necessary. Not sure if any width is "ideal" although I want to go slightly wider than stock which is 62.5" wms to wms. You also can widen your stance with wheels less than factory backset. I think Casper is within an inch of stock width (correct me if I'm wrong josh) and has steel wheels w less than stock backset.
Whenever I can snag another good side job to rake some funds in, I'm going to start looking for a D44. I'm going to do a Leaf front conversion and maybe run 35's if not keep my 33's. Opinions on what gearing to go with. I plan on keeping the rear and not messing with it at all except to regear it really. I don't really like the giant tires seeing how I don't have massive rocks/boulders to climb down here, just lots of up and down off camber stuff I could flex through easily.
5.13s would fit pretty nicely, you could go Sua to keep the front end nice and low to. Ive seen a black x on youtube that sits down on 33s with a sua.