Other rear Axle options?

[TKDx00]

Has anyone used anything other than the OEM Nissan rear axle, regeared and/or locked it?
What did you use? I know Dana 44's but what locker was used? Ford's 9" is pretty tough but once again, what part time locker did you use if not ARB?

We're looking into other possible options that have more available replacement/upgradeable parts.

I guess this would apply for front axles too, however I suspect nothing else is available unless you go to a Solid Front Axle.

 

[AZhiAZiAM]

Mind me asking whats wrong with the ford 9? I know plwnty of people that run then and dont have issues thats with frontiers and other fords

 

[TKDx00]

Mind me asking whats wrong with the ford 9? I know plwnty of people that run then and dont have issues thats with frontiers and other fords

I wasn't saying anything is wrong. I'm trying to find out what part time locker people use with it if not ARB.

 

[TJTJ]

The H233B is tougher than the D44 and Ford 9", but out of the D44 and 9" I'd go 9" if regearing and locking, etc, as you get the drop-in 3rd member which is SO much easier on the Ford than the Dana.

 

[TKDx00]

The H233B is tougher than the D44 and Ford 9", but out of the D44 and 9" I'd go 9" if regearing and locking, etc, as you get the drop-in 3rd member which is SO much easier on the Ford than the Dana.

Granted, I've read that the H233B is tougher, but it lacks the R/P options or so I've been lead to believe. What I've been reading for 35's is best middle option (Fuel economy to DD to Towing) is 4.56. I don't think the H233B's can fit those. Much less the fronts. Would be nice.

Any recommendation as far as a locker for the 9"?

After reading a few off-road site postings on lockers, it would appear ARB is the only option for selectable lockers regardless of make. So the issue is will the regular and reversed versions of the H233B and the current Gen1 front diff allow 4.56 gears w/ the ARB locker?

 

[TJTJ]

Granted, I've read that the H233B is tougher, but it lacks the R/P options or so I've been lead to believe. What I've been reading for 35's is best middle option (Fuel economy to DD to Towing) is 4.56. I don't think the H233B's can fit those. Much less the fronts. Would be nice.

Any recommendation as far as a locker for the 9"?

After reading a few off-road site postings on lockers, it would appear ARB is the only option for selectable lockers regardless of make. So the issue is will the regular and reversed versions of the H233B and the current Gen1 front diff allow 4.56 gears w/ the ARB locker?

I have a set of 5.13 F/R R&P to install in my 2004 as we speak.

I would not BOTHER regearing just to get 4.56, as the STOCK gearing is typically either 4.63 or 4.9....

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If you had a JEEP, maybe, as their gearing ratios are different, same with the 2005+ X's, etc.

For 2000 -2004's though, we start (V6) with 4.9 or 4.63....and you'd go higher numerically to get lower gearing.

As the OEM come set-up for ~ 29" tires (2000 -2001 X's) and you want to go to 35's, that means you need a ~ 21% reduction.

The 35's are going to need far fewer rotations to cover the same distance as a 29.

That means your engine RPM DROPS at any given speed with the 35's.

THAT means that to compensate, and get your RPM back up to a place you can get enough torque, you need lower gears than OEM.

So to round it all off to a 20% difference in rpm, and make the math easier...if you started with 4.63 diffs, you'd really want more like ~ 5.6 diff ratio.

Does that all make sense?

 

[TKDx00]

Yes it does...and thanks. This thinking has lead me in this search. Researching gears/lockers/axles...etc... I need a REAR axle that will turn 35's(~ 5.6 range), be locked by what appears to only be ARB and have disk breaks. AND allow the Gen1 OEM front diff to be matched w/ the same gearing. Can it house ~5.6 gears? Can/will the H233B do this??? Otherwise now I'd have to find 2 axles w/ 1 reversed. If the H233B can do/handle all this, fantastic I can wait to see how the reversed H233B works out w/ one of our sponsors. Otherwise I need some direction from a SAGE ... cause anyone can have customize axles created just be prepared to pay dearly for it.

 

[granitex]

Or 5:13 in a corp 14, stronger than a ford 9, or a d44. but would be better suited to a 37 than a 35 tire.

 

[04silverX]

5:56 Gears for the H233B

As for a second axle, if you are looking that route, look at the Rodeo rear axles. 98-03 model years. They are a disk braked HD D44 that is 63" wide. Perfect for the X.

Lockers, ARB of course is one, but there is also OX Lockers. Can't run them on drop-out centers (Ford 9 and such) but can run them on a D44.

Cheers,
Josh

And if your looking to re gear that Rodeo Dana 44 Talk to matt at Independent4x.com. He sells all the bearings and seals to convert that HD Dana to a standard 44. Since those trucks came with a Dana 60 pinion in a 44 housing but dont have any new gears for them with out going to Standard Dana gears.

 

[Prime]

With a Ford or Dana 44 you also have to option of an Eaton E-Locker similar to the 2nd Gen P4X.

 

[Roadwarrior]

I know it was brought up somewhere that you can use a toyota rear axle with the elocker, running the 4.88 gears if you are looking for a locker without regearing the front (assuming that you have the 4.9 gears to start off with)

 

[yellowx16]

it might have been M3C.CA on clubxterra that was thinking about doing that. he had a Toyota rear axle he was going to put in but he decided not to for some reason I can't remember.

 

[xterror04]

I've brought up the toyota option many times... But people want a premium for those axles

 

[TKDx00]

For the Gen1's R200 5.13 is it's max. While the H233B can go 5.88 according to Steevo. At this point in time I'm not ready for the SAS plunge and don't wheel enough to warrant the cost. Just wanted to know what options are available for both 5.56 gearing/35's/lockers vs. R200&H233B/5.nn/35's/lockers

The Ford 9" gearing is the beefiest over the D44 but width is an issue.

I need a large space to work.

 

[xterror04]

With 5.13 35's wouldn't be bad at all

 

[Prime]

Yeah. I did the math on that. 5.13s with 35s is pretty much equivalent to 4.90s with 32.5s. So that will put you in the sweet spot rev wise