I like them separate as well, for the same reasons, PLUS the weight added on the BUMPER is cantilevered weight, which has more impact on the truck than weight within the tire contact patch rectangle.
So, a winch can be heavy enough, but a giant honking winch with a compressor is even heavier, etc.
I'd rather have a tank and compressor as close to low and centered as I could, to help the COG more.
And, yup, wire rope stretches, and then HURLS stuff if it snaps, or, if a steel horse recovery point, etc...lets go.
The synthetic rope doesn't stretch, so it DOESN'T hurl stuff if it snaps, or if the recovery point rips off, etc.
The reasons I went with synthetic rope over wire rope were:
1) I have scars from wire rope snapping when I was ~ 18...its freakishly fast weed whacker motion as the wires zip through the air is freaky scary. If I had not leaped backwards off a 10' cliff, I'd be dead. I bled a lot as it was, with it JUST missing major stuff.
2) I've seen hooks, etc, fly through the air and smash the crap out of stuff, when wire rope snaps....hard enough to go THROUGH pickup truck rear doors, and THEN through windows, etc. A person being hit by a winch hook that could go through a door, is going to be hurt, bad.
3) Wire rope is heavy compared to synthetic rope, and the roller fairleads are heavy compared to aluminum hawse fairleads...I shaved over 40 lb off the front of the truck by doing the swap.
4) For the same diameter, the synthetic lines are much STRONGER than the wire ropes....my 5/16" MasterPull Super Line is rated at over 20,000 lb. The 5/16" wire rope on the Warn 9.5xp (9,500 lb winch) was rated at 9,800 lb.
Also - theoretically, you could go to a THINNER synthetic rope, have it STILL be stronger than the wire rope, but spool on MORE LENGTH.
So, a winch can be heavy enough, but a giant honking winch with a compressor is even heavier, etc.
I'd rather have a tank and compressor as close to low and centered as I could, to help the COG more.
And, yup, wire rope stretches, and then HURLS stuff if it snaps, or, if a steel horse recovery point, etc...lets go.
The synthetic rope doesn't stretch, so it DOESN'T hurl stuff if it snaps, or if the recovery point rips off, etc.
The reasons I went with synthetic rope over wire rope were:
1) I have scars from wire rope snapping when I was ~ 18...its freakishly fast weed whacker motion as the wires zip through the air is freaky scary. If I had not leaped backwards off a 10' cliff, I'd be dead. I bled a lot as it was, with it JUST missing major stuff.
2) I've seen hooks, etc, fly through the air and smash the crap out of stuff, when wire rope snaps....hard enough to go THROUGH pickup truck rear doors, and THEN through windows, etc. A person being hit by a winch hook that could go through a door, is going to be hurt, bad.
3) Wire rope is heavy compared to synthetic rope, and the roller fairleads are heavy compared to aluminum hawse fairleads...I shaved over 40 lb off the front of the truck by doing the swap.
4) For the same diameter, the synthetic lines are much STRONGER than the wire ropes....my 5/16" MasterPull Super Line is rated at over 20,000 lb. The 5/16" wire rope on the Warn 9.5xp (9,500 lb winch) was rated at 9,800 lb.
Also - theoretically, you could go to a THINNER synthetic rope, have it STILL be stronger than the wire rope, but spool on MORE LENGTH.
