Uh Oh, may lose X....

TJTJ

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NJ
Not on fire yet, but an incipient issue...

My wife's arthritis is potentially going to mean that I get her Wrangler when she has to get an automagic transmission rig, possibly an actual car, as she's having more and more trouble climbing into and shifting the heap.

I can't keep the X AND the Wrangler if we get a THIRD vehicle. The Wranglers got maybe 60k on it, has a lifetime warranty, and its paid for, the X has over 100k, no warranty, and is paid for.

MY arthritis means that even the damn 105k timing belt changes are now a real PITA, etc...and, I have a lot of mod work to do on the X to get it where I wanted it.

The wife is pushing me to keep the heap and sell the X.

I'm pushing for her to trade it (Heap) in on the new car she'll be replacing it with, but, she still loves it, and says the warranty means we have to keep it forever.

help?
 

TheFauxFox

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Lol, wish I could help. I know somebody in a very similar situation.
 

granitex

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Columbus OH
For the life of the vehicle, unless you take it outside, start it and go down the road, look at it sideways, make an unflattering comment about it.

All of which void the warrenty
 

J Everett

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Houma, LA
It would depend on which Wrangler it is before I would comment one way or the other here.

I think if it were an LJ (I really like them) or a '12+ JK or JKU (Pentastar 3.6L made the JK 10x better than the ones with the 3.8), I'd keep the Jeep. Otherwise, the resale would persuade me to trade it.
 

TJTJ

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NJ
Its a 2008 JK U (4 door).

Manual.

The dealership has honored the lifetime warranty even though we bought it from a different dealer many moons ago. Yes, its a heap, and has troubles from time to time, but at no point did they say, hey, there's rocks jammed in here, and, that's why its broken...they just fix it, even though they know its off roaded.

So, if just up to me, she'd trade it on on what's next.

Historically though, the precedent is that I get whatever she used to have....and she gets something new.

THAT'S how I got the FIRST ('01) Xterra, it started as hers. Traded a TJ for it. :D

I borrowed the X because the TJ was too small, and essentially just kept the X, so she needed something else (Mini Cooper that time IIRC)....and the rest is history.

:D


I WAS trying to convince her to get a new XTERRA, but, she HATES the 2nd Gen's. So, that didn't get far...plus, she needs something easier to get into/out of.


Waiting on the killer solution here....


So far, I think my BEST SHOT is simply that I'd get almost nothing for the 2004 X, maybe $7-8k as a sale, and, the trade in/Re-sale of the 2008 JK would be more than double that....so, the monthly payments on the new thing would be less, as there'd be more down on it.

I also mentioned that I HAVE all the mods for the X, but would need to BUY more mods for the heap. :angel:


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robcarync

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Raleigh, NC
You are liquidating assets. So the Xterra=$8,000 and Jeep=$16,000+ ...

Does the Jeep out perform the Xterra ($16,000-$8,000) $8,000+ worth?...and do you need the money for other things?

If the Xterra fulfills your driving needs...and the performance is comparable for what you need...then by keeping the jeep you are essentially paying $8,000+ for: 1) Jeep name, 2) newer vehicle, 3) to make your wife happy, 4) _______________________

Especially when you can wrench on your own vehicles (you know the Xterra in and out)...the reliability thing is a lot less scary. I would spin it like this:

"Honey, the Jeep is simply more valuable. You trade it in so you can get yourself a nicer car. Selling the Xterra won't give you as much money to buy a car with. A vehicle is a depreciable asset anyway, so there is no point in having equity tied up in a car, especially when we need it for your new car. I'll take one for the team and keep the older Xterra!"

Forget the fact that we all love Xterras...the value differential is enough for me to get the value out of the Jeep and cash out.
 

TJTJ

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NJ
You are liquidating assets. So the Xterra=$8,000 and Jeep=$16,000+ ...

Does the Jeep out perform the Xterra ($16,000-$8,000) $8,000+ worth?...and do you need the money for other things?

If the Xterra fulfills your driving needs...and the performance is comparable for what you need...then by keeping the jeep you are essentially paying $8,000+ for: 1) Jeep name, 2) newer vehicle, 3) to make your wife happy, 4) _______________________

Especially when you can wrench on your own vehicles (you know the Xterra in and out)...the reliability thing is a lot less scary. I would spin it like this:

"Honey, the Jeep is simply more valuable. You trade it in so you can get yourself a nicer car. Selling the Xterra won't give you as much money to buy a car with. A vehicle is a depreciable asset anyway, so there is no point in having equity tied up in a car, especially when we need it for your new car. I'll take one for the team and keep the older Xterra!"

Forget the fact that we all love Xterras...the value differential is enough for me to get the value out of the Jeep and cash out.


Yeah, that's what I called my best shot I could think of, so far at least.

Her counters are that my arthritis has kept me from being able to wrench as much, and, the Jeep's under warranty if it needs work, etc.

Plan B is to just tell her I'm keeping the X and that's that....but, frankly, to be honest, it will ALSO be my first time since the 1970's w/o having a jeep too. So, I AM torn.

If wrenching wasn't getting harder and harder, this WOULD be easier.

:dead:
 

robcarync

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Yeah, that's what I called my best shot I could think of, so far at least.

Her counters are that my arthritis has kept me from being able to wrench as much, and, the Jeep's under warranty if it needs work, etc.

Plan B is to just tell her I'm keeping the X and that's that....but, frankly, to be honest, it will ALSO be my first time since the 1970's w/o having a jeep too. So, I AM torn.

If wrenching wasn't getting harder and harder, this WOULD be easier.

:dead:

The value differential is at least $8,000. Even if you can't wrench as much, and you have to pay for a repair...you need $8,000 worth of Xterra repairs before the numbers equalize. That is the ultimate question. If you keep the Xterra, will it cost you $8,000 more than the Jeep to make it work the same length of time.

Or...would you pay $8,000 for an equal warranty on the Xterra? No way. You wouldn't pay $8,000 to save yourself from spending a few hundred here and there. (remembering routine maintenance is not included in warranty...they are sunk costs with the Jeep or Xterra).
 

TJTJ

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NJ
Her response was essentially that she'll just bear the pain if we have to sell the jeep.

Arrrg.


On the plus side, there's nothing she likes out there that is within the budget w/o the higher trade in value....so, for now, its a stalemate.

:D
 

Slasa

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Denver
I don't envy your position. Rob has given sound logic that i can't really add to. However, the fact you always get the hand me downs while she gets new cars. . .
That actually sucks. My wife and I trade off alternately when the car we each pick for ourselves is due for replacement. That aside, if your wife is getting the new car to meet her need you get to choose what is left over.
Now I am not going to help the xterra cause here but: if that warranty is a good as you make it sound on a newer vehicle then it is hard to justify keeping the X just because we all love them.
Final thought: if the wifey is happy then everyone is happy, right? Either keep the heap or find her a new car she loves so much she doesn't care what you keep.
 

TJTJ

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NJ
I don't envy your position. Rob has given sound logic that i can't really add to. However, the fact you always get the hand me downs while she gets new cars. . .
That actually sucks. My wife and I trade off alternately when the car we each pick for ourselves is due for replacement. That aside, if your wife is getting the new car to meet her need you get to choose what is left over.
Now I am not going to help the xterra cause here but: if that warranty is a good as you make it sound on a newer vehicle then it is hard to justify keeping the X just because we all love them.
Final thought: if the wifey is happy then everyone is happy, right? Either keep the heap or find her a new car she loves so much she doesn't care what you keep.


LOL

Yeah, we've been married almost 40 years and that's sort of how its been.

I dodged one because I gave my old '01 X to a buddy in need...and bought a used 2004 to replace it. (She kept her Jeep, so no trade in required, etc).

Its that 2004 I am working on keeping at present.

:D
 
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