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RATTFINK Mar 18, 2012

  1. RATTFINK

    RATTFINK XN OG Admin. Founding Member

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    Welcome to The Metal Shop. This area is only for members to discuss what you are building, techniques, tips, products, tools used, skills, etc.

    *This area is not for selling products. If you want to sell a product, you need to contact the site Admins and pay for XN sponsorship*
     
  2. Sionnach

    Sionnach Bought an X Founding Member

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    I just ordered some titanium, making chopstick tips. And then some jewelry.
     
  3. Ricel

    Ricel Wheeling Founding Member

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    Started working on a mini Baja for my buddies college.

    Check out its own thread.
     
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  4. TKDx00

    TKDx00 Lockers Installed Founding Member

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    Started a few projects this month: Sliders, Welding table, Rear cargo/tool storage, Rear Power distribution center.
     
  5. NismoFire

    NismoFire Titan Swapped / SAS'd Founding Member

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    I'm looking at fabricating my own sliders...just need a welder!
     
  6. drbandkgb

    drbandkgb Titan Swapped / SAS'd Founding Member

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    Im looking to start a light bar company lol :)
     
  7. TheFauxFox

    TheFauxFox Titan Swapped / SAS'd Founding Member

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    Rest the countdown for next year's Baja car while working on a few projects of my own.
     
  8. TKDx00

    TKDx00 Lockers Installed Founding Member

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    Question about rear bumper swing arm material. Square tube vs. DOM tubing. My intention was to use 2x2x3/16" or 1/4" wall. I get a deal on the square 1/4" wall.

    For strenght what would be the DOM thickness since it doesn't take as much to be as strong. And what's the ave. going cost difference per ft?
     
  9. Maxterra

    Maxterra Wheeling Founding Member

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    Most, as I do, use 1/8x2x3 for the swingarm itself, and then use 1-3/4 x.120 or .134 DOM for the tire mount.
    1/8x2x2 is also more than enough for the tire mount.

    The 1/4" wall is way too heavy, as is the 3/16 IMO

    If you've not got a tube bender or notcher for the round tubing, just go with square tube.

    In quantities under 40', the .120 wall 1-3/4 Dom is running about $5/ft
     
  10. TKDx00

    TKDx00 Lockers Installed Founding Member

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    Swing arm: 2x3x1/8"
    Tire mount: 2x2x1/8"
    I'm gonna quess the braces for the tire mount are 1.5x1.5x1/8".
    Unfortunatly I don't have a bender so square or rect. are my only options.
    $5 a ft. ummm square/rect will work just fine for me...lol

    What about the pivot that holds the bolt, 3" of DOM is what I was thinking, but again at what thikness?

    Thanks Max
     
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  11. Creepy Cruiser

    Creepy Cruiser Sliders Site Sponsor Founding Member

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    All this text and no pics? That's no fun, lol.
     
  12. Maxterra

    Maxterra Wheeling Founding Member

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    On the hinge "tube" I use 2" x 3.25 lg round stock and bore out to 1.25" for the bronze flange bushings and 1" bolt.

    Could probably hook u up with one if u need.

    Close up of the hinge.
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  13. TKDx00

    TKDx00 Lockers Installed Founding Member

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    You BORED it out???!!! HOLEY CRAP...how often do you sharpen your bit??? Or maybe I should ask how many do you go thru? Unless you're one of those fancy smancy fabers that have a lazer or hi-pressure water...lol

    Actually that's just about what I figured it should be, but I was going to look for the DOM already with the hole and get 3"s of it then drill press the zerk hole. If I can't find the DOM I'll be in touch...thanks.

    Creepy...I can't take pics until after the fact on doing something, it's just me in my garage. I tried to take a pic as I worked but got a lens full of blur and sparks and burned da crap outta something I didn't want to ...lol
     
  14. Maxterra

    Maxterra Wheeling Founding Member

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    I'm waiting for the new hinge plates to come in. The one in the pic is far too labor intensive to build anymore.
    Ought to be in within a couple of weeks.
     
  15. drbandkgb

    drbandkgb Titan Swapped / SAS'd Founding Member

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    Working on a light basket... #2..
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  16. J Everett

    J Everett Suspension Lift Founding Member

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    Light basket #2? You have any pics of the first one? I'm having a difficult time visualizing the end product.
     
  17. drbandkgb

    drbandkgb Titan Swapped / SAS'd Founding Member

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    Look in my build
     
  18. J Everett

    J Everett Suspension Lift Founding Member

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    Ah, I see now. It's not a full length basket is it? Just sort of occupies the area where the wet box was?
     
  19. drbandkgb

    drbandkgb Titan Swapped / SAS'd Founding Member

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    YEah..Im planning on building a full rack for me and maybe one other..

    This one is going to a member here to try out..
     
  20. NMTerras

    NMTerras Suspension Lift

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    I used a 3/4 diameter 7" barrel hinge for the swing arm on my tire carrier. We'll see if it's strong enough...
    [​IMG]
    This is a hinge used for big gates and safes...



    Sent from my brain using technology
     
  21. TKDx00

    TKDx00 Lockers Installed Founding Member

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    is it me ?!?!?!?!?! :w00t:
     
  22. Steeze

    Steeze Guest

    Tire carrier hinge from AtoZ fabrications... it's bomb-proof!

    Here are the components with the exception of the bearing rings which are already installed.

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    One ring on each side. These hold the bearing and are the hardest part to install... I use a mallet and a big socket takes a minute but the rest is cake after that.

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    Bottom view with the bearing seal... these needed to be welded before final assembly. You wouldn't want the heat distorting things, however I think the rings are ok.

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    Top with the retaining washer and castle nut. Tighten it down, put in the cotter pin, and top it off with the dust cap. Of course you'll want to add some axle grease or something but that's it. Definitely recommend it...

    [​IMG]

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  23. Ricel

    Ricel Wheeling Founding Member

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    Now that is a hinge!
     
  24. Creepy Cruiser

    Creepy Cruiser Sliders Site Sponsor Founding Member

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    Do you have a link to them?
     
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    Steeze Guest

  26. Ricel

    Ricel Wheeling Founding Member

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    just put that in my want list. thanks steezey
     
  27. greentennx

    greentennx First Fill-Up (of many) Founding Member

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    Built my own sliders, used 2x3 .120 rectangle, and 1.5" square tube.
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  28. metzican

    metzican Suspension Lift

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    That looks very stout. Is it me or does it just look like a trailer spindle with the bearing housing?
     
  29. TKDx00

    TKDx00 Lockers Installed Founding Member

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    Hey all you METAL HEADS...sorry I couldn't resist...

    Anyway... I've NOT been having any luck finding a way to bend 2" od x .120 wall DOM tube. No one seems to have a mandrel bender OR they just don't want to do the job. However I finally found a place in Chicago but they want $150 to bend 2 90* bends in 2 tubes for a bumper.

    Is that expensive? Cause I have no clue as to what something like this should cost.
     
  30. ThePlasticOne

    ThePlasticOne First Fill-Up (of many)

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    My shop officially charges $150/hr for labor, although we don't always charge for full hours. And putting two bends in a single piece of pipe by hand is harder than you might think - half a degree off on the Z plane and you'll either have wasted a pipe or you'll spend a lot of time and energy torquing it into spec.
     
  31. TKDx00

    TKDx00 Lockers Installed Founding Member

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    So the $150 I was quoted was most likely an hourly rate and not $34.50 per bend. Somehow that doesn't sound as bad. Still $150 though.

    Another place quoted me $300. He said it was due to sets up cost. The first tube would be the most expensive and the rest gradually would get cheaper.
     
  32. TKDx00

    TKDx00 Lockers Installed Founding Member

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    Another Metal Inquiry... I'm looking for someone in the Chicago area that has a plasma cutter and is willing to help out a fellow X owner? I have a job for you.
     
  33. ThePlasticOne

    ThePlasticOne First Fill-Up (of many)

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    Last week I helped my shop build a new mini-furnace. This week we're going to cast some aluminum!

    [​IMG]

    Not making anything special, just a few little toys and trinkets. Next time I'll see about making some Xterra emblems or something.
     
  34. TKDx00

    TKDx00 Lockers Installed Founding Member

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    HEY... A friend of the wife's family has offered to let me use his plasma cutter. It's a 110V and will cut up to 1/4". I need a crash course on how to use it... CAN ANYBODY out there gimma some info?!?!?! I've got plenty of scrap steel to practice on.
     
  35. granitex

    granitex Skid Plates Founding Member

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    it is a lot like an arc welder with an air compressor hooked up to it. The arc melts the metal, and the compressor blows it out of the way.
     
  36. Ricel

    Ricel Wheeling Founding Member

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  37. rokdaddy

    rokdaddy Wheeling Founding Member

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    Check to see if it has it's own built in compressor (most 110v plasmas do). If It doesn't, you will need to hook it up to an external compressor.

    I'm going to guess that cutting 1/4" steel with a machine running on 110v/20A service will give a pretty rough cut - thinner stuff will give you a cleaner cut. But that's what angle grinders are for; just make sure you "color" outside the lines enough.

    Have fun... plasmas are awesome.


    -Rok
     
  38. TKDx00

    TKDx00 Lockers Installed Founding Member

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    Thanks guys... I do have a compressor just in case it doesn't. I also have an angle grinder for neatness if needed. My idea is to cut some letters in a C8x11.50 channel to take some of the weight off for the rear bumper and corner pieces. The Waterjet and Laser cutting services here want $20 per letter. Which is waaaaaay out of my price range.
     
  39. ThePlasticOne

    ThePlasticOne First Fill-Up (of many)

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    In my experience, most plasma cutters with onboard air aren't the best tools in the world. External compressor or bust!


    Technically incorrect. The arc ignites pressurized air, creating a focused stream of directed plasma, which oxidizes the metal (at least with air cutting), compromising its structure. The oxidiation in combination with the heat contributes to the melting of the metal, which is pushed away by simple air pressure.
     
  40. TKDx00

    TKDx00 Lockers Installed Founding Member

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    :eeks: what dey say?!?!?!? As long as it works...
     

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