Rating tires Gen-1

drbandkgb Oct 27, 2011

  1. drbandkgb

    drbandkgb Titan Swapped / SAS'd Founding Member

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    When you rate a tire please use this format.
    Pavement-(1-10) Gravel-(1-10) Rock-(1-10) Mud-(1-10) Snow - (1-10)
    Price:
    Miles:

    1 (BAD) - 10 (Good)

    Sample: BFG KO Size: 33" 15R 12.50
    Pavement-(8) Gravel-(6) Rock-(7) Mud (4) Snow (5) AVG- 6.00
    Price: $850
    Miles on them: 7500

    If you can post a picture it would help too
    Please own the tire you rate
     
    Last edited: Nov 15, 2011
  2. Timrich

    Timrich Super Duper Moderator Founding Member

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    Location:
    Central FL
    Multi Mile Wild Country MTX
    Size: 33x12.50 R17
    Pavement-(5) Gravel-(7) Rock-(7) Mud (10) Snow (n/a) AVG- 7.25
    Miles: 8000 so far. Still look new
    Price: $600, got a killer deal from a buddy at Tire Kingdom.

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  3. Xterraforce

    Xterraforce <img src="http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u7/ra Founding Member

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    1,120
    Location:
    Signal Mtn., TN
    B. F. Goodrich Mud Terrain KM2
    size: 265/75-16
    Pavement-(6.5)* Gravel-(7) Rock-(10) Mud-(8) Snow-(8) AVG-7.9
    *Combined pavement rating of (8) on dry pavement and (5) in the rain.
    Miles: 15,000
    Price: $850.00-discounted price from one of my customers.



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    Last edited: Nov 17, 2011
  4. drbandkgb

    drbandkgb Titan Swapped / SAS'd Founding Member

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    Goodyear Wrangler Duratrac
    Size: 33" 12.50 15R Load: C
    Pavement-(8) Gravel-(8) Rock-(6) Mud-(7) Snow - ( None) Avg: 7.25
    Price: 670.00 Discount tire 5/11
    Miles: 2000

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    Last edited: Nov 5, 2011
  5. Roadwarrior

    Roadwarrior Titan Swapped / SAS'd Founding Member

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    5,475
    Location:
    Probably in class..
    Kuhmo Road Venture A/T
    Size: 285/75/16R ~ 32.8"
    Pavement - 8; Gravel - 7; Rock - 7; Mud - 6; Snow - 8. Avg = 7.2
    Price: I think they were 90 per? I believe that was the deal I got. Local tire place owned by a friends father.
    Miles: ~5000

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  6. AbuseTheElderly

    AbuseTheElderly <img src="http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u7/ra Founding Member

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    Location:
    Pearl, MS
    Radar RLT8 Size: LT31X10.50R15
    Pavement-(8) Gravel-(7) Rock-(7) Mud (5) Snow (5) AVG- 6.40
    Price: $550
    Miles on them: 20,000 (they have about 10,000 or more left on them)

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    My thoughts: This tire was bought without doing any research other than prices to expect for the size tire I was buying. I came across these at a small tires shop in California, they charged me $550 mounted and balanced. Overall, I am extremely happy with the tires considering how much I paid. These tires are the only ones I have ever seen with angled tread on the sides of the tire, you cannot see it in the picture but the very edge tread is cut into the tire at an angle. I believe that is why they are so good on pavement, as the tire is compressed against the road you can see the tread "grabbing" the asphalt. These tires have also helped me avoid a very close accident, driving at 45 MPH the car in front of me slammed on their brakes and so did I but they stopped barely into the intersection. I was not able to stop as fast as the Toyota Camry in front of me and the divider between eastbound and westbound traffic was a dirt drainage ditch. With my ABS getting a workout as I was coming to a stop I had just enough room between the driver side rear bumper and the drainage ditch to fit the X between them. I was able to turn between the 2 perfectly at about 20 MPH and having the ABS going crazy. If I would have turned sooner I would have hit dirt on the drivers side and slid into the Camry, as it was I had maybe an inch between us. The tires never even barked.
     
  7. AZhiAZiAM

    AZhiAZiAM Suspension Lift

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    Location:
    Fresno,CA
    Toyo Open Country MT
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    Size:
    Pavement-(9) Gravel-(9) Rock-(7) Mud (8) Snow (7) Sand (8) AVG- 8
    Miles: Just over 50k miles and still look fine.
    Price: They are pricey tires. Don't remember how much they were. But when i was looking for them on my ford they were running around 450 a piece but that's for a 40x15.5x20 tire.

    If you don't have a price range. I would buy these every time, unless your into hardcore crawling then probably not the best tires. They are hard and noisy, but i love the sound of tires so it doesn't bother me.
     
    Last edited: Mar 30, 2012
  8. pro2amendment

    pro2amendment Test Drive Founding Member

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    9
    Location:
    West Harrison, in
    For snow, I'd give an 8. Slightly better than mud IMO...
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  9. BigWhite

    BigWhite Test Drive

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    38
    Location:
    Calgary, AB
    Tire ............BFG KM2........... BFG A/T......... BFG M/T.......... GY Duratrac......... GY A/T (can't remeber exact model)
    Road ................5..................... 6................... 4....................... 7..................... 8
    Trail .................6..................... 7................... 6....................... 8..................... 5
    snow ................6..................... 6................... 4....................... 7..................... 7
    ice ...................4..................... 6................... 0 *dont do it....... 6..................... 7
    mud .................6..................... 4................... 7....................... 7..................... 2
    gravel ...............6.....................7................... 5....................... 7...................... 7
    wear ................7..................... 7................... 6....................... 5..................... 6
    dmg proof .........8.................... 7................... 8....................... 6...................... 4
    Price .................4.................... 6................... 5....................... 7...................... 8
    Looks ................8.................... 6................... 7....................... 8...................... 4
    Average ............6.6.................6.8................ 5.7..................... 7.5...................6.4
    Mileage .........10,000 ............20,000............5,000 .................20,000..............5,000

    Duratracs exceeded my expectations in every category but tread life.
    They do wear out quickier than BFGs for sure but the difference in price means you can buy them again sooner anyway.
    *You take your life(and others) in your hands running BFG M/Ts on icey roads - dont do it.
    I'm not a BFG hater more of a Duratrac Lover. Price should get double weight on the average imho. More money means more mods.
    Price shown as qualitative because Canadian prices would be misleading. Mileage estimates in miles.
     
    Last edited: Mar 15, 2012
  10. AZhiAZiAM

    AZhiAZiAM Suspension Lift

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    Location:
    Fresno,CA
    Falken High Country
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    Pavement-(7) Gravel-(7) Rock-(n/a) Mud (5) Snow (4) Sand (4) AVG- 5.4
    Miles: About 30k
    Price: $199 area

    I personally do not like these tires. they seem to slide on any area and do not pick up grip. they haven't warn evenly even with normal rotation. Also are fairly soft unlike all the other tires i have used.
     
  11. Clayboy

    Clayboy Bought an X

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    131
    Location:
    Harrison
    nitto terra grappler 295/70r17


    Pavement-(9) Gravel-(9) Rock-(7) Mud-(7) Snow - (?) avg. 8


    there tires are great... great compound, quiet for how big they are, just an all around good tire, im sticking with the toyo company from now on... nothing but satifaction from these and they toyos my dad runs on his ecoboost.
     
  12. Jack Stilts

    Jack Stilts Skid Plates

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    1,335
    Location:
    Michigan
    I've been looking for this thread!

    BFGoodrich Rugged Terrain T/A - 265/70/R16

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    Pavement - 10
    Gravel - 8
    Rock - 7
    Mud - 5
    Snow - 7
    Rain - 8
    Ice - 5
    Sand - 7

    Average: 7

    Price: $800~ for all five.
    Miles: 11,000

    I wanted a tire that wasn't going to kill my MPGs as a daily driver, but still had good off-road performance. On the highway, they're great. Perform like a street tire with no road noise. On the trails, they have yet to let me down. Haven't gotten stuck in anything. They get a little packed in mud, but they're not a mud tire. Overall, I'm happy with them; they've lived up to my needs.
     
  13. stevencox93

    stevencox93 First Fill-Up (of many)

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    Location:
    Tazewell,Tn
    Falken WildPeak A/T (265/70/16)
    Pavement: 8
    Gravel: 7
    Rock: 7
    Mud: 4 (2wd) 8 (4wd)
    Snow: 6
    Price: $600
    Miles: 50K warranty currently 43K with a lot of life left
    Comments: I personally will not buy these tires again. To me they suck in any type of wet situation. Ive had to put my truck in 4wd just to get out my side yard which is flatter than my driveway. I do have to add though when I got these I had them before they were actually supposed to be released to the public due to the place I ordered them cancelled my order and didn't notify me and I had waited a month on them and no word from the company so they sold them to me to sweeten the deal and keep my business. That being said Ive noticed since these tires have gone mainstream my tire design is slightly different than they are now. the newer ones have deeper side lugs and deeper tread on the edge of the tire where mine is almost bald on the sides and has a crazy amount of tread left in the center. So I think they modified the tire better on the runs of them now vs. the ones I bought.
    This is the only close up I can find of them.
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  14. ericcris10sen

    ericcris10sen First Fill-Up (of many)

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    359
    Location:
    Zion National Park, Utah
    Kelly Safari TSR (P265/70R15 110S)

    Pavement-(10) Gravel-(9) Rock-(8) Mud-(8) Snow - (5)
    Price: About $160.00
    Miles: Not sure. Had them on when I purchased them

    Comments:
    So my Xterra had them on when I purchased it, and I haven't even THOUGHT about changing the tires to something else. I still get decent mpg on the highway/city (of course xterras aren't known for great mpg so who cares really) and it performs amazingly when you're off roading. I've done quite a bit. I've gone through water, mud, over some rocks (not huge ones because I don't have a BL or SL, just a PML), as well as typical gravel areas, and I have YET to have a problem! They're beasts and these tires NEED and DESERVE more recognition. For $160.00 a pop, I think that's a great deal for what you're getting out of it!

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    Not a great pic, but I don't really have any that are a super close up. I'd just google it and select the tirebuyer link.
     
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  15. 01XterraPhilly

    01XterraPhilly First Fill-Up (of many)

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    326
    Location:
    Conshohocken, PA
    General Grabber AT2 265/70/r16

    Pavement: 10
    Gravel: 8
    Mud:9
    Snow:9.5

    Price: $160 per tire ($180 with Shipping from TireRack dot com)
    Miles on them: not sure but I've had them for a year and a half

    Notes: I absolutely love this tire especially since it is directly compared to the BFG KO. The thing that I love about these is that it has a pretty aggressive tread block which allows water, snow, mud, and everything else to siphon out of the treads. I've taken them throughout Rausch Creek in snow, mud, and dry dirt/gravel. I can't speak any more highly of them. I will be buying these again unless by the time i need new ones I dont go up to 33s and get nitto mud grapplers or bfg km2s

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  16. Intender

    Intender Wheeling

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    462
    Location:
    Lewisville NC
    33x1250x15 Goodyear MTR kevlar.

    Pavement-5.5. Loud, hard to keep balanced so they tend to vibrate at completely random speeds
    Gravel-6 not really had any trouble with traction on gravel, but they do tend to throw rocks
    Rock- 8.5 when aired down they conform to rock really well, and grip is good, but I have ripped a few chunks out of the tires
    Mud-9.5 only time mud has stopped me is when I was burried to the frame one time and had to winch out. they even grip well when not aired down
    Snow - 4 in less than 3 inches of snow, 8 more than 12 inches of snow. its like ice when small amounts of snow, but I plowed through drifts over 20 inches deep like it was nothing and ran through consistent 15 inches of snow with ease
    Price: somewhere around $240/tire before installation and road hazard. I had gift cards and discounts so I dont remember exact price
    Miles: around 7000
     
  17. Frogstar7055

    Frogstar7055 Wheeling

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    554
    Location:
    Jacksonville FL
    Thunderer Trac-Grip M/T 285/75/r16
    (cheap Taiwan tires)

    Pavement: 7.5 (kinda loud)
    Sand: 6 (aired down-8)
    Gravel: 8
    Rock: 8
    Mud: 9.5
    Snow: Ya right,I'm in Florida

    Surprisingly I'm impressed with them. Have about 6000mi on them and wearing quite well.
    They handle well on the road even in the rain and they rock in the dirt and mud.

    Price: All four mounted and balanced $650 out the door.


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  18. Chetter

    Chetter First Fill-Up (of many)

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    334
    Location:
    Chattanooga, TN
    Yokohama Geolander A/T 33/12.5/15

    Pavement - 8
    Sand - essentially untested...
    Gravel - 7
    Rock - 8
    Mud - 8
    Snow - 8
    Cost: $750 mounted and balanced from a local tire dealer
    Miles: ~5000 so far and showing no wear (not that I would expect them to at this point)

    Keep in mind I have nothing to actually compare these with in the offroad world...these replaced my stock street tires. They have definitely exceeded my expectations but I may be giving them a slightly false high rating because I can actually make it offroad..lol.
     
  19. Big_THanks

    Big_THanks Wheeling Founding Member

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    494
    Location:
    Chattanooga
    NITTO TRAIL GRAPPLERS 33X11.50r18

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    Pavement - 10
    Sand - ??
    Gravel - 9
    Rock - 10
    Mud - 10
    Snow - ??
    Cost: $326 each
    Miles: not many on mine but have previous experience with them

    Comments: love these tires toyo is the only company for me

    Sent from my Note 2 using Tapatalk HD
     
  20. Dirthouse

    Dirthouse Bought an X

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    135
    Location:
    Murfreesboro, TN
    This is good to hear since I was looking at these. TireRack now has them for $134 a piece.

    Sent from my zombie apocalypse survival bunker
     
  21. 01XterraPhilly

    01XterraPhilly First Fill-Up (of many)

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    326
    Location:
    Conshohocken, PA
    yeah i love these. they are very underrated since a lot of people go with BFG or the Duratrac Wranglers. Ill prolly end up just getting these until i can start dumping some decent money in to them...even still ill prolly keep getting them. If you want other reviews XterraMike and Fauss run them as well. at this point i have ill be coming up on 2 years running them and absolutely no complaints. they have about 35k miles on them and they are still have about a half inch thread left or so...
     
  22. Nd4SpdSe

    Nd4SpdSe First Fill-Up (of many)

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    298
    Location:
    Quebec, QC
    Goodyear MT/R w/Kevlar @ 32x11.5r15

    Pavement: 7
    Gravel: 7
    Rock: 8
    Mud: 9
    Snow: 2
    Price: C$1000 for 4
    Purchased in 2009. Roughtly 40'000kms on them with some descent life on them left.

    Pavement: It's a heavy tire. Good tire in dry and in wet and doesn't feel any more slick in the rain. It makes some good noise on the highway, but I don't care about road noise, but my stereo is louder, and and my exhaust is even louder. I perfer a performing tire and will give up noise for that. They do get hard to balance as the wear.

    Gravel: It's gravel, nothing fancy. Does kick up some rocks, but I would expect that of any off-road tire, but I rarely do gravel roads.

    Rock: Grips great. I've offroaded with them (accidentally) at 12-14psi. They hold and grip well with a lot of flex.

    Mud: I've always been amazingly surprised at how well they work in the mud, where I've made things look easy (always a plus to get rep points when running with Jeeps) even compared to other trucks using dedicated aggressive mud tires. Like Intender, I usually only get stopped when I'm burried to my frame.

    Snow: Horrible. I've been a firm believer/user of winter tires, and this is no substitube. I've had to put it in 4WD just to get up small inclines otherwise it would spin. In Quebec LT rated tires were legal to use as a snow tires until this year, now it's anything with the snowflake symbol, including M+S. The MT/R Kevlars. I haven't tried playing around in deep snow, but snow covered roads, I don't like them at all. They're slick when the temp drops below freezing.

    Thread Life: They pretty good for wear, but I could see them wearing quickly if you use them as a DD tire. At first I swapped with my street tires and only used them for off-roading. In the winter they don't get used, and with having the car in the last 3 years, I tend to drive that more in the summer over the truck since she hibernates in the winter.

    Final: Highl Recommend them, especially for an all-rounder off-road/expedition vehicle that will see some serious terrain and obstacles. When I replace themm it'll be the same tire but in 33".


    Yokohama Geolandar I/T (Winter Tire) @ 31x10.5r15

    Pavement: 8
    Gravel: 6
    Rock: N/A
    Mud: 6
    Snow: 9
    Price: C$1000 for 4. I was quoted $175/each this winter for replacements
    Purchased in 2008. Roughtly 70'000kms on them and they're due to be replaced soon.

    Pavement: Light tire with not much noise. They grip well in the rain and even rain just above

    Rock: Done some off-roading with them, but never on rock.

    Mud: These work surprisingly well for off-roading. Nothing amazing, but when an impromptu off-roading trip, they work, even in mud, but you need to drop the tire pressure way down. Stay moving and they'll keep you going, but once your stopped, you're stuck.

    Snow: Awesome tire for running a non-studded snow tire (legal in Quebec before of the ice base the road form in the winter), but I don't really believe in studs. I've driven in the worst winter had thrown at me and I've never been stuck or stranded or had lost control nor ended up in a ditch. With these tires I'll drive my truck anywhere, any time, in the winter. They drift very well with great control and snap back quickly when you let off the gas. it's a great winter hooning tire ;)

    Ice: Ice is tricky, especially being studless, but they work very well and have gotten to places and back to where people couldn't, but you need to drop the pressure down to 20, cause at ~35psi on iced-over freezing rain covered roads, they don't work miracles.

    Tread Life: With 6 years and 7 winters under their belts, they about due, and considering they recommend replacing a tire after it's 7 years old, it's good timing. So they last as long as they're needd to last, no more, no less, and I've found some cracking along the length of the tires when I pulled them off this spring. So they'll should be replaced for next winter.

    Final: A great tire, but limited in size, 31's being the biggest for a 15" rim; 275, 285 and 315 available for a 16" it seems. Would get them again in 32-33 if I could to get more height/clearance, so I'm undecided on what to do for replacing them, but getting another set of them in 31's, I couldn't go wrong and wouldn't be surprised if I went that way.
     
  23. StupidFish

    StupidFish Need Bigger Tires

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    726
    Location:
    The moon
    General Grabber (not at2) 33x12.50
    Verdict on these tires is they are crap. I hate them.
    Pros: nice on the road. They offer decent traction when its raining but if you encounter snow or mud get ready to lose all hope of finding traction. This last snow should have been fun to play in but spending my time digging down to the ground so i could try and get up a marginial incline is not my idea of fun. Never buying them again. I want my interco tsls back.
     

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