Lizardking's Minivan...

lizardking Nov 1, 2013

  1. lizardking

    lizardking Bought an X

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    Intro Comments: One trip to Rausch Creek and I was hooked. Running blues/blacks now. The truck not as family friendly as it used to be. It is no longer the main family vehicle. I still till love to drive it everywhere even to it isn't the DD anymore.

    Username: Lizardking

    Real Name: Keith

    Make: Nissan
    Year: 2011
    Model: Xterra
    Trim: Pro4X 6MT
    Color: Metalic Green

    MODS

    Suspension/Drivetrain:
    4.56 Gears
    M205 w/ gear and ARB locker
    Titan LCAs
    Nisstec extended brake lines
    SB1010 Speed Bleeders
    Titan SPC UCA
    PRG adjustable shackles
    Timbren SES
    315/75r16 Mickey Thompson MTZ P3 on stock rims
    Bilstein 5100 rear shocks 3-4"
    Tundra 5100s front w/ FJ passenger springs set up 1 notch (I can replace m205s CVs without disconnecting the UCA)
    OME HD Rear leaf pack with extra alcan parts. AKA bastard pack.

    Exterior:
    Airflow Snorkel
    rocky road outfitters diff guard
    Hefty front bumper and radiator skid
    Hefty engine skid

    Shrocksworks Rock Sliders
    Hefty transmission skid
    Hefty transfer case skid
    Hefty fab gas tank skid

    2' NGP firestick antenna
    Garvin adventure rack

    Calmini rear Tire Carrier
    PIAA ion crystal driving lamps
    Volant airbox w/o the cut out.
    Smittybilt X2O Gen2 10,000 Pound Wireless Waterproof
    arb air compressor

    Interior:
    BullyDog GT Gas Tuner
    Weather Tech floor mats
    CB
    External CB speaker
    JVC KW-V840BT head unit

    Misc:
    adjusted clutch pedal



    Removed:
    x2o 8000 comp series winch
    Harbor Freight wireless winch remote (direct plug to x2o)
    RIXN Large ceiling net
    Alcans 3" + 300#

    Coverking Neosupreme seat covers
    285/75r16 General Grabber AT2 on stock rims
    Mud flaps
    front sway
    rear sway
    Shrocksworks rad skid
    Shrocksworks engine skid
    Nissan hood protector
    Shrocksworks diff cover
    Radflo 0-3" rear shock
    Stock leaf packs
    Nisstec AAL
    255/80r17 KM2s
    Lokka Locker
    285/75r16 Goodyear MTR on stock rims
    PRG Radflo 2.5 coils extended+ 2" spacer
    Femco Oil drian
    Viair 400P

    On order/not installed:

    Wishlist:
    Maybe some type of shelving

    Comments: Not sure what is next. Rock lights? SAS?

    Update: I have had a few growing pains along the way. I came from a background where I was waxing my car every other day and it has been difficult to see the truck get beat up. At the same time, I am having much more fun than I ever did with my "fast" cars. The truck no longer has to be a minivan (we leased a real minivan) so I have decided to make her even more off-road worthy and stop sweating the scratches and rust. I still want to maintain her and make her last as long as possible, but I will learn from my mistakes and push on. Hell, who knows if she will even survive... she is going to try to make it through 3 kids learning to drive.

    Lessons learned so far:
    1. "Go as slow as possible, but as fast as necessary." Still working on that one. The funny thing is that might be a life lesson, not just an off-road lesson.

    2. Do not join x forums or follow facebook groups because it will make you spend money.

    3. 4 low is your friend when you drive a manual.

    4. You will kick yourself for not getting 33s. Nothing wrong with the 32s.... they just are not 33s.

    5. Sliders are way cool. They will do their job. They will pay for themselves. They should be mod #1.

    6. Clutch cancel can be used for hills but after reading some horror stories about shifting in deep mud I found it is very important to use if your transmission is covered in mud or water.

    7. Only use Nissan trans fluid!

    8. Magnetic antennas suck.

    9. Watch out for the trees! They are sneaky bastards.

    10. Check your skid bolts! I lost two and a third was on the way out!

    11. Check to make sure your sliders are not rotting your frame...

    12. In case you missed it the first time: Do not join x forums or follow facebook groups because it will make you spend money.

    13. Re-spool your winch under load. It is embarrassing when you can't pull a Subaru out of a ditch in the snow because the line is slipping.

    14. Powdercoat does not like North East winters.

    15. LCA mounts do not like rocks. (or LCAs)

    16. Replace your rear springs when they are worn. Preferably a few thousand miles before you need it. My helwigs held up ok, but I think they eventually lead to my pinion angle issues. If I had replaced my springs they would have saved me the cost of another drive shaft.

    17. Pay attention to your pinion angle. The boot on the drive shaft can only take so much abuse.

    18. Stuck CVs are no fun.

    19. I loathe rust.

    20. I am addicted to wheeling and enjoying a few cold ones with good friends.

    21. Dismounting and mounting your own tires is a pain in the rear.

    22. What a dumb hobby. I spend lots of money making my truck better offroad. I take it offroad. I beat it to hell and break something. I fix it with something better so that when I take it out again I need to do harder trails to break it even worse. Very dumb. Why the hell do I love it so much??!??

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  2. AZhiAZiAM

    AZhiAZiAM Suspension Lift

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    Welcome to the nation such a sexy cooler on that thing
     
  3. Macland

    Macland Titan Swapped / SAS'd Founding Member

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    Man I love this truck. The color really sets it off.
     
  4. Roadwarrior

    Roadwarrior Titan Swapped / SAS'd Founding Member

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    It is so pretty..

    Those wheels look great, threw me for a loop trying to figure out what they were.
     
  5. lizardking

    lizardking Bought an X

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    They came a little shiny. I had to paint them with gunmetal because I could not look directly at them without eye protection...
     
  6. Golf286

    Golf286 Wheeling

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    Welcome to the Nation from Colorado!!! I really like your rig..
     
  7. gorillamel

    gorillamel Lockers Installed Founding Member

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    Glad you made it over here! It's nice to see someone else piece-mealing their skid plate purchases, haha. After 2 years of shopping, I almost have a full set! :)

    And, to reiterate what everyone else has said, that metallic green is such a great color. I'm jealous of all your treed trails out East.
     
  8. Xado89

    Xado89 Skid Plates

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    Nice looking truck man. Great pics! I will add in on the awesome wheels as well.

    Sent using highly technical equipment involving satelites and space and nerds.....lots of nerds...
     
  9. TomsRedX

    TomsRedX Bought an X Founding Member

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    Treed trails are nice and all as long as there is room to get by them, right Keith.
     
  10. lizardking

    lizardking Bought an X

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    Yup.. Trees are sneaky. More room would be nice. ;-)

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    I straightened this out a bit and currently have it covered with plasti dip. I am deciding if I am going to bed line or not. The plasti dip is a pain to tape off and doens't look great if you standing next to it but it is not so bad from a distance.
     
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  11. lizardking

    lizardking Bought an X

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    I did this on both sides.... don't mind my winter 32s and the drying plasti dip.

    When it gets warmer again, I will probably do this:

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  12. TomsRedX

    TomsRedX Bought an X Founding Member

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    That looks good!
     
  13. bigjim247365

    bigjim247365 Tentacle Monsters 'ᴙ Me Supporting Member

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    theres a great story behind every battle scar!
     
  14. lizardking

    lizardking Bought an X

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    Great day to work on the truck. Spring cleaning!!


    I pulled off the sliders again to check on frame rot and it was the same has last year. Mud and grime (and probably salt) worked its way in there and was rubbing on the frame. I didn't get a good picture but it looks the same as last year.


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    I will probably get them welded if/when I get a body lift and get the body lift version. Until them I am okay pulling them off every year. The sliders needed a coat of paint anyway.




    Hefty powder coat??? WTF!?!?!?


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    Not happy. Not even a year old yet. Lots and lots of bubbled powder coat. Sanded it down put a coat of Rustoleum bed liner on. My 3 year old shrock sliders look new (at least the powder coated part does)
     
  15. drbandkgb

    drbandkgb Titan Swapped / SAS'd Founding Member

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    Bad prep I'm sure in the powder coating guys part.. These should be sand blasted before powder...

    I would put a few coats of plasti dip on the frame, where it meets the connection points...
     
  16. Macland

    Macland Titan Swapped / SAS'd Founding Member

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    Hefty has had trouble with powdercoating since their first bumper run. Whether with time at the powder coater, the PC not following directions, or quality like your issue. Unfortunately it stinks having to depend on second parties when building a product.
     
  17. lizardking

    lizardking Bought an X

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    Thanks. I have some amsoil heavy duty metal protector there already. It should be ok. It probably wouldn't be an issue expect all the salt they use on the roads here. Still, it should be better quality... I found out it is a know issue and apparently people get it shipped bare metal and power coat it local... Live and learn .
     
  18. Cameron23

    Cameron23 Skid Plates Founding Member

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    I'd send hefty the picture and see what they say that's redicilous


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  19. lizardking

    lizardking Bought an X

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    Updated the first post with new pictures and changes to the build.

    Recent additions include:
    KM2 full spare
    PIAA ion crystal driving lamps
    Viair 400P
    Coverking Neosupreme seat covers
    Milwaukee M18 Cordless impact wrench
    Rear Tire Carrier
    Replacing OEM length Radflos 600# with Extended length Radflos 650#
    Misc trail spare parts and camping gear
     
  20. Macland

    Macland Titan Swapped / SAS'd Founding Member

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    Bahaha! #2!!!
     
  21. lizardking

    lizardking Bought an X

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    Mini review of newly acquired booty:




    1) Milwaukee 2652-22 M18 Cordless Impact wrench.
    OMFG. Is this just one of those secrets that you just have to learn on your own? Should have picked up an impact wrench a long time ago. I have nothing to compare it to so I couldn't tell you if it is good or bad... but it is awesome just jacking up the truck and zipping off lug nuts! Tire swaps made easy. It made short work of the lower shock mount bolt too.


    2) Coverking Neosupreme seat covers.
    Magic. Dirt, dog hair and sticky kids come right off. The seat covers look nice too. I should have bought these sooner.


    3) PIAA ion crystal driving lamps
    Meh. Lights on front of truck light up road... but they look sexy.


    4) Viair 400P
    Nice! 8 minute air up is much nicer then 30+ minutes (Longer if I actually waited till the tires were really full). I am kicking myself for not getting the 100% duty cycle one but this one is faster.


    5) Extended length Radflos 650#
    I liked my OEM length Radflos but anything over 2" and the ride was harsh. 2" Turned into 1.5" with bumper and winch. Cranking them up made the ride harsh. The 1/2" spacer (1" lift) helped get me back near 2.5" but the 600# springs with the bumper and winch felt just a tiny bit too soft. So far the 650# feel perfect and they ride at 2.5" of lift (no extra spacer ...yet) all day with no issue. I am looking forward to testing them off road. It was getting close to rebuild time anyway so I am going to sell the old ones. I will say that if anyone is thinking of getting OEM length ones and keeping their stock ucas, these work. You miss out on around 1.5" of travel but they drove great and worked well on the trails.


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  22. drbandkgb

    drbandkgb Titan Swapped / SAS'd Founding Member

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    I need a pair of these bad for our Gen2. We have a blown Bilstien and I have not been happy with spacer lifts at all...



    I say it all the time but.. This is the best color on the X T E R R A E V E R
     
  23. metzican

    metzican Suspension Lift

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    Nice review. I've been looking at getting a cordless impact but my pneumatic one is awesome.

    Dave, what mileage do you have on your Gen2?
     
  24. lizardking

    lizardking Bought an X

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    I keep meaning to come here more. I am going to make an extra effort especially since I am heading to WENT this year (fingers crossed). I updated the first post to make it current. Recent mods are 33" MTRs (love), Alcans, longer rear shocks, new wheels and lokka up front. Recent maintenance has been new CVs, Hubs and UCA SPC ball joints.

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  25. thecoalition

    thecoalition Call me Daddy

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    Lookin good man. Didn't get to see it at Rausch in feb since I was not in your group this year. Can't wait to check it at Went.
     
  26. lizardking

    lizardking Bought an X

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    Freshened up the first page. Going to try and spend some time here...


    Starting to seriously consider titian swapping especially since my lokka appears to be slipping. Going to have to see what funds allow.

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  27. Fromfrontier2Xterra

    Fromfrontier2Xterra I spend more money on comic books than my X Super Moderator Supporting Member

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    Very glad to hear it! Did the lokka just start slipping this weekend?

    Stinks to hear but ironic since the convo we had Fri with Josh about not knowing lifespan of the lokka's yet.

    Keep us posted on it as much as it sucks to hear.
     
  28. lizardking

    lizardking Bought an X

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    Alright, so even though it is effin cold and my garage isn't heated, I started the process of diagnosing this. Dropped the engine skid and emptied the fluid. It had a bit of metal in it and what looked a very small amount of flakes. Very hard to tell what the flakes were from but they were small and few. Nothing like when I shredded my spiders. There were big chunks of metal then. Still not sure what the issue is. On to the CVs next. Hope I don't have to drop the whole diff.


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  29. Fromfrontier2Xterra

    Fromfrontier2Xterra I spend more money on comic books than my X Super Moderator Supporting Member

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    Man, I hope you don't have to either. Fingers crossed for you.
     
  30. JeffPro4x

    JeffPro4x Hot Pipe Super Moderator Supporting Member

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    Rockauto has v8 pathy shafts in stock for $65/each. Just sayin...

    sent from a crawlspace...
     
  31. lizardking

    lizardking Bought an X

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    Those rock auto CVs definitely have me thinking. Too bad the cheapest m205 I can currently find is north of $600 pre-shipping. Plus another $500 to regear it to 3.73 (or $1000 if I go 4.56). Plus a couple hundred more for install. Slippery slope. Doesn't help that I can find r180s for $200.

    Last night I was gungho on dropping the whole diff and opening it up just to check it out. This morning I feel like putting on my spare CVs and see if it is still popping.
     
  32. lizardking

    lizardking Bought an X

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    Something is about to happen.
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    I am a little worried about binding at full drop but it will be a while before I can test.


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    I don't think I posted about this on here, but my lokka is starting to slip. I changed half shafts in hopes that one of those were going bad but no luck. It is still slipping. Emptying the diff oil showed a bit of excess metal in the fluid but no chunks.


    After some more research on aussie/lunchbox lockers, they all start to do this after a while and at some point in the future it will just stop holding altogether. I believe it has some life in it. It just has noticeably started to pop. I also think that the lokka is still a good purchase. It does fix the weakness of the R180 and I think it protects the weaker half shafts by giving the system an easier place for the energy to go. Bottom line is, I still believe if you are staying 33s and stock width (or even extended R180 half shafts) the lokka is still a good choice.


    However, since apparently my end goal is 35s, it would just make the lokka issue worse on 410s and R180. ARB 4.10s and the R180 might work but I think you would need to invest in RCVs to keep from snapping axles. It is a sign to start getting parts for 4.56 and M205. Of course, I still have to do things differently because it is my DNA to learn the hard way, so I am staying stock width. At least for a while.
     
  33. Fromfrontier2Xterra

    Fromfrontier2Xterra I spend more money on comic books than my X Super Moderator Supporting Member

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    Good to know on the lokka. Thanks for overview and write up. Nice pick up on the shafts. As always, can't wait to see where you go with it.
     
  34. lizardking

    lizardking Bought an X

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    Ok. I am really going to try and post here! Honestly! I know I have said it before. In my defense, I really haven't been posting anywhere for a while.

    After a going back and forth on how to resolve my slipping lokka issues and decide how far I am really going with this crazy hobby, I pulled the trigger on 4.56s and a m205 arb locker. Still working on the logistics of getting the right m205 where and when I want it but it is in motion. My current plan is to stay stock width and use the v8 pathy axles I picked up. I might also run my 33s for a while before I bump up. I want to see how cool it is to have super low gears on the hard trails. It will help me decide if I go 34s or full on 35s (or 33.8 vs 34.6 depending who is measuring).

    Plus, I have to see what my cash pool looks like after I finish dicking around with all these parts.


    Lokka diag for anyone interested.:

    I took advantage of our great spring weather and started to pull her apart for spring cleaning and to diagnose my clicking r180.


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    r180 out. Don't mind the oil. I had a bad seal after swapping the CVs for testing.
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    I was hoping to find something obvious but everything seems fine. I am a little low on the tolerance side .145" but that is what it read when it went in.
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    Found a little rubbing but I am pretty sure that isn't the noise.
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    I went digging further to try and find some clue. Nothing. I guess maybe the tiniest of rounding on the teeth but they look pretty good. Center pin looks fine. Spring and pins good.
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    I put it back together and got the tolerance to .155 exactly with amazon shims. Next time out it was still making noise. My diagnosis? They just eventually start slipping after enough use. It still works. It probably helps protect my axles but it's currently like a very strong LSD. Which, isn't horrible. It just doesn't keep it locked 100% of the time.
     
  35. JeffPro4x

    JeffPro4x Hot Pipe Super Moderator Supporting Member

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    What was rubbing on the coilover? Axle shaft? Guarantee you'll be on 35's within a year!
     
  36. Fromfrontier2Xterra

    Fromfrontier2Xterra I spend more money on comic books than my X Super Moderator Supporting Member

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    Ha. I bet on this as well.

    Nice write up and diagnosis on the Lokka. Glad to see a review on them after some hard use. Would you still recommend for those looking for a cheap alternative to an ARB?
     
  37. lizardking

    lizardking Bought an X

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    The axles. Specifically, the clamps holding on the boot.

    And probably on 35s. I am very curious how it drives on 33s though because if I have a complaint with the manual, it's that the bigger the rocks get the more I have to feather the clutch. It would be nice to let it just crawl. Depending on how that goes, 34s may be a serious contender. Plus I already have 17" rims so 305/70R17 would be on the list.

    It's definitely a solid alternative to the arb. Particularly if you busted the R180 spiders or are a 6 speed and a m205 swap isn't really an affordable option due to the regearing.
     
  38. lizardking

    lizardking Bought an X

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    Well, I am a convert. The titan swap is great. It is very expensive for the 6-speed guys but if you are eventually going to go 34s or 35s and need the m205 anyway, it's a better choice than staying stock width. The extra 2" of down travel helps everywhere and the 1" extra under the engine skid is nice as well.
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    The gears are great but it didn't stop the need for clutch work. It isn't an issue. It is just that it doesn't make we want to stay 33s when 35s are so close. I did stall a bit less overall.

    And my transfer case is the noise maker. Apparently, the 6-speed and auto case have different part numbers and I am not sure why. I found a local junkyard that has one from a 2012 6 speed X for a reasonable price so it shouldn't matter anyway. Once I get the old transfer case out, I hope to crack it open and take a look. If it seems simple enough, I may replace the chain and keep it for a spare.
     
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  39. JeffPro4x

    JeffPro4x Hot Pipe Super Moderator Supporting Member

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    i need a titan swap in my life. great wheeling with you as always, Keith!
     
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  40. lizardking

    lizardking Bought an X

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    Updated first page.


    Installing a used t-case from a 2012 manual in the near future. Hopefully, after this, I can take advantage of my front locker again!

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