"Hypothetical" engine swap ideas

XterraJunkie May 30, 2016

  1. StupidFish

    StupidFish Need Bigger Tires

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    Oh im a huge fan of the 350 small block swap. But the td27t is upgradable, light and small enough to not have to do the sas, and hey,its diesel. Plus some states (va included) won't let you engine swap with an out of model engine if it's older than the model of the vehicle. If the engine says nissan on it you most likely won't have any problems. And did i mention the td27t is a diesel?
     
  2. akuria

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    I don't want similar MPG and more power from a V8. I want MPG period. I don't care if I get a little less HP doing it. I drive like a grandma anyways. In return though I'll get a ton of low end torque and that's where it's at. Also there is us parts support for the TD27. That motor is used in Nissan forklifts that are used here in the states. Plus some small box trucks use it too here in the states. And parts are easily found on Amazon and eBay. The tranny, front dif is the same so no worries there either.


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  3. XterraJunkie

    XterraJunkie Test Drive

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    Yeah I agree, low end torque is where it's at. Doesn't the td27t have more torque than the 3.3L anyway?
    And so you can leave the stock transmission with the swap?
     
  4. StupidFish

    StupidFish Need Bigger Tires

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    Same torque if not less. But easily upgradeable. U keep the tranny but swap out the bell housing.
     
  5. harryron

    harryron Suspension Lift Supporting Member

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    So since I'm most likely going to be replacing my engine before long, what bell housing would you have to use to do the swap?

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  6. akuria

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    You may need to get one for the diesel specifically but soon I'll do some testing and see if the bell housing from the 4cl gas motor that the Xterra came with may work too.


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  7. ellisfamilyokc

    ellisfamilyokc First Fill-Up (of many)

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  8. akuria

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    I wouldn't for 1 simple reason. The motor isn't Nissan. It's a Brazilian made motor. Not saying that it's a bad motor cause of that but it's quite unique and parts would be hard to find. Where as the td27 is a Nissan motor and is very popular all over the world and is used in forklifts here in the states so parts are easy to find.


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  9. ellisfamilyokc

    ellisfamilyokc First Fill-Up (of many)

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    My understanding is that the MWM 2.8 is in use worldwide under the International brand. I was in Costa Rica last month and there are quite a few that far north. I dream of driving the Pan American highway and I'm positive the parts support is there anywhere south of the USA. For my purpose it would be hard to beat.
     
  10. BEEFY

    BEEFY Skid Plates

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    I have looked and have found lots of people talking about swapping chevy 6.0L in, but haven't found a build where it has actually been done. Has anyone come across anyone that has actually done it. i'm asking because I have a line on a complete truck with a good 6.0L.
     
  11. akuria

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    Would it even fit?


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  12. Xaggerated

    Xaggerated Tricycle Supporting Member

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    While the ls packaging is relatively small, I just don't see any way it would fit without some voodoo magic
     
  13. BEEFY

    BEEFY Skid Plates

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    Thats kinda what I was wondering, is if would even fit. I have a spare xterra out back that I will use for test fitting to see if it is posible before I cut into the good one. And If it doesnt fit in the X I will try and use it in my Jag project.
     
  14. ellisfamilyokc

    ellisfamilyokc First Fill-Up (of many)

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    There is a 1st gen Frontier on one of the Nissan forums with an LS3. It looks like it fit fine. The 6.0 is the same size package.


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  15. BEEFY

    BEEFY Skid Plates

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    Found it. And it is pretty cool.
     
  16. Prime

    Prime Some Kind of In Charge? Admin

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    Link?
     
  17. granitex

    granitex Skid Plates Founding Member

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    there have been a ton of ls swaps into older hard bodies.
     
  18. BEEFY

    BEEFY Skid Plates

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  19. akuria

    akuria Wheeling

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    God damn.


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  20. harryron

    harryron Suspension Lift Supporting Member

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    I got to thinking I still want to do a diesel but would a Chevy 4.3 vortex work? They are reliable as hell and are a dime a dozen around here (I need a engine bad).

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  21. Trexterra

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    Yes, there are even engine mounts available

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  22. BEEFY

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    Well I picked up the donor truck with the 6.0L. Now to see if I can find the time in the next year to start working on it.
     
  23. harryron

    harryron Suspension Lift Supporting Member

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    So I am going to see f i can get financing to get a engine; and i was wondering how much a td27 swap would run roughly? i am trying to figure out the best rout to go.
     
  24. akuria

    akuria Wheeling

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    I think ronin said he sent about $5k on his swap but there was also a lot r&d with him. I think if you check out his build you might be able to save a few pennies.


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  25. harryron

    harryron Suspension Lift Supporting Member

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    I will have to find his build thread. I was thinking if I do another vg33e I will have to buy another xterra for as cheap as I can and pull the engine and basically do the timing belt, seals, head gaskets, distributor, plugs, wires, and headers, and exhaust so I don't know if I would be much cheaper just doing that.

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  26. Joey

    Joey First Fill-Up (of many)

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    I find it interesting that no one is interested in the super charged 3.3 liter swap from a 3.3 liter. This seems like it would produce more power and be fairly straight forward for a swap. Of course I know nothing about this so don't beat me up to bad.

    I've thought about getting a super charged 3.3 liter and mounting it on an engine stand to slowly go through the complete motor. Lets face it, once you add weight and larger tires these trucks are wayyyyyyyyyy under powered.
     
  27. harryron

    harryron Suspension Lift Supporting Member

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    To me it would not be worth it but that is just me. The cost of the engine and the fact that you have to run premium gas with no boost to mileage. Plus the fact with more moving parts leads to more potential problems.

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  28. Nd4SpdSe

    Nd4SpdSe First Fill-Up (of many)

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    Personally I'd just throw the SC on the regular vg33....they're made for boost, and the 8.9:1 isn't a big enough difference over the 8.3:1 of the SC motor. Regular to Premium is around C$5 per tank more...

    The only extra moving parts is an extra idler pulley and the SC itself
     
  29. Joey

    Joey First Fill-Up (of many)

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    What about the wiring harness and computer wouldn't they need upgrading also?
     
  30. Prime

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    And I want to say higher flow injectors.
     
  31. StupidFish

    StupidFish Need Bigger Tires

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    Im starting to lean toward a 350sbc. Have a tranny and a transfer case available for free. Kinda hard to pass up.
     
  32. ellisfamilyokc

    ellisfamilyokc First Fill-Up (of many)

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    Anyone else dreaming about the new Cummins Repower 2.8?


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  33. Trexterra

    Trexterra Wheeling Founding Member

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    Only if they come with the adapter plates to the trans. Would be fun in my 87 pathy.

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  34. XterraJunkie

    XterraJunkie Test Drive

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    Bump, looking for serious engine/transmission swap options. Been talking with some guys about an LS swap. And I have a friend who swapped a 4.3 vortec into his 80’s Toyota pickup. I wish there were more diesel options. I’m wanting better fuel economy and reliability, and more power would be bonus. SAS is a for sure thing regardless. So weight isn’t a super big issue but around 500 lbs would be good. It’s gotta be fuel injected with a timing chain, and it would be nice to keep it a manual. Plus I just hit 176,000 miles on my 3.3 and I’m dealing with knock sensor codes that don’t make sense. It’s been a great engine for sure but it’s not worth upgrading and I’ve heard that rebuilding an engine is a waste of time and money.
     
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