GB Feeler: Rock Monster DOT Legal Beadlocks

dhyde79

Titan Swapped / SAS'd
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Amarillo, TX
ok guys, I get to be the lucky one here...

I got in touch with Rock Monster Wheels. They're the civilian facing branch of the guys that make the military internal beadlock wheels that're made to take a lot of abuse, for the military vehicles.

Now, as of current, they don't make any wheels that'll fit the xterra, so, I got a hold of them to ask what it'd take to get some. Their answer: all it takes is a little money.

Ok, that wasn't REALLY their answer, they said:
"Derek,
Than you for your interest in our Rock Monster Wheels.
Currently we do not have a wheel with the 6x4.5" bolt pattern. We do not get a lot of request for this pattern.
As our Rock Monster Wheels are cast aluminum, a mold for both parts of the wheel would have to be made. In addition, the wheel would have to be tested. Both of these are relatively expensive when divided over a small number of wheels. Our minimum order for cast wheels is typically 200 wheels."

so, I fired back an answer that went something like
"200 wheels huh? how much per wheel, I'll see if I can drum up some interest for ya."
after all, 200 wheels is only 40 full sets (including spares) or 50 sets not including spares. I'd bet between a few forums we could drum up some interest....maybe....hopefully ;)

so, here's the deal, they're an internal beadlock, much like H1 wheels, so, they use an internal ring, the back is one large piece/ring, and the "face" is where the hub/etc is as well as what holds it all together.

(a few pics of the tire mounting process)
first, you take your tire, and put your internal lock ring into it
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then, you put the "wheel" in from the back side
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then flip it over
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install your O-Ring
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put the "face" on, tighten bolts in the appropriate "drum head" style tightening pattern to the prescribed torque level, and take to a tire shop to be balanced after inflating.
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now, they do have a different look for each wheel, so, I'm currently waiting on an answer back as to whether we, the end purchasers, could submit the style we wanted, or, if we have to go with one they pick, and if so, what they'd pick.

here are their current designs:
Jeep TJ
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Jeep CJ
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Jeep JK
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Toyota Trucks
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Ford Trucks
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Land Cruiser
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Defender
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GM Trucks
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GM HD Trucks
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Dodge Trucks
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So....I'm still waiting to find out more details, but, what're all of your thoughts? how many of ya'll would save/scrounge up the cash to be in for a set? (I for one would do what I had to, in order to get a set, because, well, lets face it, I want some BAMF beadlocks, that look sharp too)
 

TKDx00

Lockers Installed
Founding Member
Clearify for me...Would the rims be only 4.5 B/S or would they create 4.5 - 5.5(stock)? I'd go for a set of black 15x7 5.5 B/S if they were the snowflake kind that Nissan had w/the older models. IF THE PRICE WAS RIGHT!!!!
 

dhyde79

Titan Swapped / SAS'd
Founding Member
Location
Amarillo, TX
Clearify for me...Would the rims be only 4.5 B/S or would they create 4.5 - 5.5(stock)? I'd go for a set of black 15x7 5.5 B/S if they were the snowflake kind that Nissan had w/the older models. IF THE PRICE WAS RIGHT!!!!

well, given that changing the size would be a totally separate order of 200 required, I'm pretty sure we're looking at either 16x7 or 16x8 for the size, and they'll be whatever the proper backspace for a 2nd gen is. if we go 16x8 I'll have them split the extra size front and back to maintain balance and try to prevent wear on bearings any faster than normal.

if we can guarantee that there are 15" wheels that'll fit on a 2nd gen, then, I'd be all for making them 15x8's but, I've never seen a set of 15's that'll fit a 2nd gen...
 

TN4x4Xterra

Suspension Lift
Location
Knoxville, TN
Clearify for me...Would the rims be only 4.5 B/S or would they create 4.5 - 5.5(stock)? I'd go for a set of black 15x7 5.5 B/S if they were the snowflake kind that Nissan had w/the older models. IF THE PRICE WAS RIGHT!!!!

Not sure but I think this GB is more directed at 2nd gens than 1st gens....
 

NMTerras

Suspension Lift
Location
New Mexico
So it seems (second gens) but, question is do they already make a wheel that fits the first gen (6x5.5) if memory serves, the toyota truck wheel is that size...?
 

dhyde79

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Location
Amarillo, TX
So it seems (second gens) but, question is do they already make a wheel that fits the first gen (6x5.5) if memory serves, the toyota truck wheel is that size...?

toyota truck wheel specs

Hutchinson P/N WA-0567
Size 17 x 8.5"
Bolt pattern 6H - 139.7 mm BCD
Lug style M12 shank nut (hub piloted)
Hub bore diameter 4.18" (106.2 mm)
SAE rated load 2,750 lbs. - 60 psi
Backspacing 4.51" (114.3 mm)
Construction Cast aluminum alloy
 

rokdaddy

Wheeling
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Location
New Mexico
So it seems (second gens) but, question is do they already make a wheel that fits the first gen (6x5.5) if memory serves, the toyota truck wheel is that size...?

I was thinking the same thing... my Tundra has the same 6 X 5.5 pattern. I'm going to take a closer look at these when I get home tonight. Might have to spring for two sets of these.

-Rok
 

dhyde79

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Location
Amarillo, TX
yeah, and, going for the toyota ones wouldn't count toward the 200 we need to get a batch made for 2nd gen rigs...
 

NMTerras

Suspension Lift
Location
New Mexico
toyota truck wheel specs

Hutchinson P/N WA-0567
Size 17 x 8.5"
Bolt pattern 6H - 139.7 mm BCD
Lug style M12 shank nut (hub piloted)
Hub bore diameter 4.18" (106.2 mm)
SAE rated load 2,750 lbs. - 60 psi
Backspacing 4.51" (114.3 mm)
Construction Cast aluminum alloy

These are awfully close to the specs for the 17s I have on terra right now.

yeah, and, going for the toyota ones wouldn't count toward the 200 we need to get a batch made for 2nd gen rigs...

Sorry about it! ;-)
 

dhyde79

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Location
Amarillo, TX
These are awfully close to the specs for the 17s I have on terra right now.

Sorry about it! ;-)

actually, y'know...I'm gonna see if they'll count orders of their existing wheels toward that minimum, cause, they're still getting sales...
 

rokdaddy

Wheeling
Founding Member
Location
New Mexico
^^ Let me know if they go for it... That size is very close to what I want for my Tundra. I'll probably go for a full set w/spare.

-Rok
 

dhyde79

Titan Swapped / SAS'd
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Location
Amarillo, TX
y'know....how much extra strain would running a set of adapters and some titan wheels put on the rig's wheel bearings? negligible? maybe it's time to see if they'll do some 16x8 6x5.5's, they'd be a lot more universal...
 

dhyde79

Titan Swapped / SAS'd
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Amarillo, TX
the contact has confirmed that we CAN submit a wheel design and they'll go in and see what can be done to make these custom ones match the design...

also, as far as cost, we're already being offered a better deal than what the one shop in OK that sells their product sells existing sizes/styles for, so, I'm happy here...I'll throw pricing out at a later point since I just asked about the "can we mix and match sizes to make the order, so that we're still buying X number of wheels to pay for the order" question ;)
 

dhyde79

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Amarillo, TX
Well...ya'll start throwing ideas out for designs. Initially I'd bet it's a 6spoke like their other 6hole ones are if we leave it up to them...
 
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