First Aid Kits (FAK)

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slantyshanty

Bought an X
Location
'Merica (DFW)
What is everyone using for FAK's? I lost the xterra one years ago but keep my CLS (combat life saver) bag with some added stuffs in it. The only stuff I don't have (anymore) are the saline bags. Where can I get those? (Don't have any corpsmen buddies anymore) Can i just buy them from a medical supply store. I'm not an EMT/paramedic... But I played one while deployed! :)


http://www.narescue.com/USMC_Combat_Lifesaver_Kit_-_Coyote-CNB7A3F86FACD2.html?BC=AD88F038B3D2

I'm sure you can find it cheaper, just showing what it is. Edit: Now that I look at that site, my bag looks quite a bit different and has WAY more stuff. I'll have to take pics.
 

davemj98

Bought an X
Location
Indiana
http://www.gandermountain.com/modpe...ortsman-Series-Grizzly-First-Aid-Kit&i=708403
This is what I replaced my Nissan kit with;
Bandage Materials
9 - Bandage, Adhesive, Fabric, 1" x 3"
7 - Bandage, Adhesive, Fabric, Knuckle
2 - Bandage, Conforming Gauze, 3"
1 - Bandage, Elastic, Self Adhering, 2"
3 - Dressing, Gauze, Sterile, 2" x 2", Pkg./2
3 - Dressing, Gauze, Sterile, 4" x 4", Pkg./2
2 - Dressing, Non-Adherent, Sterile, 3" x 4"
Bleeding
1 - Gloves, Nitrile (Pair)
1 - Syringe, Irrigation, 20 cc, 18 Gauge Tip
Blister / Burn
1 - Moleskin, Pre-Cut & Shaped (14 pieces)
CPR
1 - Instructions, Easy Care CPR
Duct Tape
1 - Duct Tape, 2" x 50"
Fracture / Sprain
1 - C-Splint™, 4" x 36"
1 - Cohesive Elastic Bandage, 2"
1 - Bandage, Elastic with Velcro, 3"
2 - Bandage, Triangular
1 - Instructions, Easy Care Fracture & Sprain
Medical Information
1 - Comp. Guide to Wilderness & Travel Medicine
Instrument
3 - Thermometer, Disposable
Medication
4 - After Bite Wipe
4 - Antihistamine (Diphenhydramine 25 mg)
2 - Aspirin (325 mg), Pkg./2
4 - Diamode (Loperamide HCI 2 mg), Pkg./1
5 - Ibuprofen (200 mg), Pkg./2
1 - Instructions, Easy Care Medications

Wound Care
8 - Antiseptic Wipe
1 - Cotton Tip Applicator, Pkg./2
1 - Instructions, Easy Care Wound
2 - Skin Tac Topical Adhesive Wipes
1 - Syringe, Irrigation, 20 cc, 18 Gauge Tip
1 - Tape, 1" x 10 Yards
4 - Triple Antibiotic Ointment, Single Use
1 - Wound Closure Strips, 1/4" x 4", Pkg./10
1 - Register Your Kit card
2 - Orange 2" x 2" Biohazard Label
2 - 5" x 8" Ziplock Baggie
1 - Povidone Iodine 3/4 oz
Field/Trauma Kit
3 - Dressing, Gauze, Sterile, 4" x 4", Pkg./2
2 - Gloves, Nitrile (Pair)1 - Instructions, Easy Care Bleeding
1 - QuikClot Sport 25g
1 - Trauma Pad, 5" x 9"
1 - Trauma Pad, 8" x 10"
1 - Moleskin, Pre-Cut & Shaped (14 pieces)
1 - CPR Face Shield
1 - EMT Shears, 4"
3 - Safety Pins
1 - Splinter Picker/Tick Remover Forceps
1 - Pencil
1 - Accident Report Form
1 - Aspirin (325 mg), Pkg./2
2 - Ibuprofen (200 mg), Pkg./2
4 - Antiseptic Wipe
1 - Dressing, Petrolatum, 3" x 3"
1 - Swat-T™ Tourniquet
1 - Orange 2" x 2" Biohazard Label
1 - 5" x 8" Ziplock Baggie
 
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NismoFire

Titan Swapped / SAS'd
Founding Member
Location
Smyrna, TN
I realize you've had CLS at some point, but as a licensed AEMT I STRONGLY urge you to stay away from IVs as a civilian unless licensed. Unless it's solely for yourself, I wouldn't even carry it in your bag.

Say you go to administer saline on someone else, you accidentally get air in the line and kill them...instant civil lawsuit and criminal manslaughter charges.
 

metzican

Suspension Lift
Location
Lafaytte, la
I would like to know also what people pack in there FAK. When it comes to parts and tools I can thnk of what I need but when it comes to FAK I have no idea my medicine cabinet at home is empty tool.
 

NismoFire

Titan Swapped / SAS'd
Founding Member
Location
Smyrna, TN
My jump bag contents:

(2) SAM Splints
Adjustable Adult C-collar
(2) 500cc bags Normal Saline
Various IV catheters/tubing, etc.
Miles of Kerlix
(3) Israeli bandages (can be used as tourniquet, sling & swath, and plenty of other uses)
(1) Adult BVM (I carry a peds mask, but not the bag)
Lots of 4x4 gauze pads
ABD pads
Bandaids
Sterile water (eye flush)
Tweezers
(2) pair trauma scissors
Seat belt cutter
Window punch
Cheap stethoscope
BP cuff
Adult King airway (remember, I'm licensed to have this stuff)
Aspirin
Benadryl
D50 (used to carry it, it expired and had to throw it out..I need more though)
Glucometer with extra lancets and strips
(2) CAT Tourniquets


No, this isn't my bug-out kit, it's my jump bag. I am a licensed AEMT and I'm trained to use this stuff. It rides around in my truck most days. I've needed it more often than you realize. With as much as I travel, I've witnessed and/or run up on accidents before EMS has arrived. Motorcycle wrecks, car accidents, 1 allergic reaction (that I didn't have epi for)...3 wheeling trips ago, a kid rolled his 4-wheeler down a large hill...I didn't have my bag because I rode shotgun with Mudchet and we left my truck off site.


Anyway, that's what I carry. I used to have a black cloud that loomed over my head. Seemed like disaster followed me around for a good 4-5 year stretch...




For layman's usage, I'd recommend some type of OTC pain killer, benadryl, bandaids, maybe a roll of Kerlix, 4x4 gauze (stuff works well as TP if necessary), seat belt cutter, and a large bottle of contact solution.
 

maillet282

If you bleeding, Imma fix you
Moderator
Location
Ontario Canada
I carry a similar set up as NismoFire. except swap out the King airway for a set of Oral Pharyngeal Airway and Nasal Pharyngeal airways and a few OLAES bandages ( http://www.ctoms.ca/products/olaes-modular-bandage-flat?cat=82 ) I also carry a couple SOF-T tourniquets.

My med bag can be separated in 2 halves. the one part with the list above stays in the truck and I also use it for work. the other part carries my more restricted items like Narcs and, intubation kit, and surgical airways. and most of the other stuff that I am not allowed to use except while at work

Disclaimer: I am a Canadian army medic that uses the same med bag that I carry in my truck for work when I go out in the field and other duty related activities.
 

akinc

Skid Plates
This is an awesome thread......
I really need to beef up my FAK, just have the standard one Nissan gave me. It sure does come in handy, even for the little things. I've only had to use the antibiotic ointment and a bandage one time and it was for my daughter (she's 12) and I became a hero that day. So I need to make it stronger.........
 

XBetty

First Fill-Up (of many)
Location
Littleton, CO
I still have my original and it's never been used. We have various first aid kits in our house though. One for the Jeep, one for camping and fishing. Maybe I should beef it up!
 

ericcris10sen

First Fill-Up (of many)
I carry around a couple med kits along with a big medical bag full of a ton of things. I've been cert'ed for Wildland First Aid when I was with the Forest Service and I've bought a ton of items that normal kits don't come with, but would DEFINITELY help out if you're out somewhere and there's no help that can get to you (sometimes that happens if you're on a trail somewhere far away).

I've come across random hikers where I live/work and I've used my bag a couple times with very minor problems, and also have used it on me as well. FAKs are great to have for any reason. But I suggest becoming cert'd officially. Doesn't matter if it's basic first aid, Wildland, Adult/Child CPR, etc. I love having experience and training/certs in first aid. You NEVER know when you'll need it.
 

XTorrey

First Fill-Up (of many)
CPR and First Aid training is an invaluable tool when camping and off roading. I HIGHLY encourage it, and you can take the classes with your local American Red Cross.

Sent from the wastelands of Tatooine
 

davemj98

Bought an X
Location
Indiana
The nice thing about the upgrade kit I got was that it still fits (barely) into the factory issue bag, and stores in the same place.
Dave
 

mtaylor

Test Drive
Location
Alberta, Canada
Very good point. I want to at least become CPR certified. I think that's basic knowledge anyone should have.

I just felt like this should be said again. CPR is absolutely something everyone should know how to do. I know that without good bystander CPR, I would be very dead right now.

On a happier note, (kinda) I don't carry that much first aid stuff, just basic cleaning and dressing gear mostly.
 

Ddog346

Bought an X
Location
Coventry, CT
I partnered the Nissan kit with my med kit that I received from my Fire Department when I got my EMR license. Has all the basics I'd need for a trail injury. It's enough to get the person(s) patched up and out of the trail. The plus side of it being from the fire department is that I have unlimited resupply! Haha
 

maillet282

If you bleeding, Imma fix you
Moderator
Location
Ontario Canada
Back in January, I ended up responding ( through work ) to a Ejection/ Air craft crash. I had with me the same med bag that I carry in my rig ( grabbed it out of my X as i was heading out to the crash ambulance. one thing that I noticed is that the scisors provided in most FAK are crap. if they are made in china,they will not last to the abbuse of cutting through too many seat belts or heavy fabrics. I broke the hinges on 2 pairs of trauma sheers before I ended up using my Kershaw folder.

this is just a reminder to people to not cheep out when stocking up their first aid kits ( my company did and it wasn't fun when Ish hit the fan) I ended up buying a pair of the Leatherman Raptor Scisors and all i got to say is good gobble are they heavier quality the what I used to have
 

Levi_Xterra

Bought an X
Location
San Antonio,TX
I carry a duffel bag of gear. Includes 2 smaller basic med kits and a larger trauma one, Seatbelt cutters, window breaker, tourniquets, stuff like that, would still like to beef it up though
 

Ripper

Bought an X
Location
Western MA
I carry a duffel bag of gear. Includes 2 smaller basic med kits and a larger trauma one, Seatbelt cutters, window breaker, tourniquets, stuff like that, would still like to beef it up though

And you honestly don't need most of it! I work in a extremly busy EMS system and we actually use very little on even the worst scenes.

The most important piece of gear is the one between your ears! If you don't know what your doing with the gear, let someone who does play with it! And strongly advise getting basic training including CPR!

A small well stocked/put together kit is all you really need! If you're going to carry more than one kit, carry a boo boo kit and a second one that it's contents do not exceed your skill level (and I mean your skill level not your level of certification!). Realistically it should contain items to stop heavier bleeding and a some splint materials. You'd be amazed at what you can do with very little.
 
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robcarync

Sliders
Location
Raleigh, NC
Ibuprofen...gatorade...alka seltzer...multivitamins...greasy breakfast...

Ohh...First Aid Kits are a real thing besides for treating hangovers?

oops
 

GhostX

Allergic to Pavement<br><img src="http://i164.phot
Location
SoCal
IMO your first aid kit should match your training/experience/practiced needs. Like Nismo said...no need to get in over your head.

Simple CPR trained here (through work), and carry an accumulated bag of tricks from mostly dealing with kids simple ailments on the trail.

A few things I've added that might not make the average list: Pepto Bismol and Kaopectate for middle of nowhere stomach grumblings...Benadryl for allergies...Cortaid and Calamine for bug bites...a Sharpie (great for writing down important notes...age, blood type, etc.), and either a really good pair of scissors or knife. Along with the obligatory Band Aids, antibiotic cream/ointment etc. to treat the basic cuts n bruises.
 

NismoFire

Titan Swapped / SAS'd
Founding Member
Location
Smyrna, TN
IMO your first aid kit should match your training/experience/practiced needs. Like Nismo said...no need to get in over your head.

Simple CPR trained here (through work), and carry an accumulated bag of tricks from mostly dealing with kids simple ailments on the trail.

A few things I've added that might not make the average list: Pepto Bismol and Kaopectate for middle of nowhere stomach grumblings...Benadryl for allergies...Cortaid and Calamine for bug bites...a Sharpie (great for writing down important notes...age, blood type, etc.), and either a really good pair of scissors or knife. Along with the obligatory Band Aids, antibiotic cream/ointment etc. to treat the basic cuts n bruises.


Amen. The only reason I carry so much crap is because it's also my FD jump bag. Anytime I ride on the rig, that bag goes with me. Otherwise, it bounces around in my truck.

Some of these guys kill me with their EOTWAWKI preparations....I mean, I'm all about being prepared, but I'm not going to stock up/store something that I have no clue how to use. Yes, you can kill people with Normal Saline.../rant.



Quick CPR lesson-- CHEST COMPRESSIONS ONLY. No more rescue breaths. ~100 compressions per minute maintains adequate perfusion, but they have to be GOOD compressions. Yes, it sounds terrible, but every time I do CPR without a monitor I'm listening to Another One Bites The Dust in my head. Every compression hits on the "Dun dun dun," and that song is right at 100bpm. Perfect for compressions, plus it gets your mind off of "Oh ****, I'm doing CPR on someone."
 

Ripper

Bought an X
Location
Western MA
Ha I've had some odd songs stuck on my head on codes, never that one. Last two were Timber by Kesha and the other was Thunderstruck by AC/DC
 

NismoFire

Titan Swapped / SAS'd
Founding Member
Location
Smyrna, TN
Ha I've had some odd songs stuck on my head on codes, never that one. Last two were Timber by Kesha and the other was Thunderstruck by AC/DC


Hahahaha Timber.....I hate that I love that song.

When I was in EMT school, my instructor would turn out all the lights, throw ResusciAnnie under the desk and tell us to go find her and bring her back to life...needless to say, that evolution would last anywhere from an hour to 2 hours, in the dark, with ANOTHER ONE BITES THE DUST playing on REPEAT over the loudspeaker in the didactic room THE ENTIRE TIME.
 

Macland

Titan Swapped / SAS'd
Founding Member
I thought it had heard that about chest compressions only. That's good information to have about 100/minute as well. I need to take a basic CPR course but never think of it except in this thread.
 

ellisfamilyokc

First Fill-Up (of many)
Location
OKC
One of my first Xterra mods was the removal of the factory FAK and installation of new straps that held my Adventure Medical Kits Comprehensive kit.
 
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