Jun 15, 2013
Hmmm.. screen shot of what I see
Glad to help on the info. and sway yea to the dark side of ham.. ;-)
I had to turn off my ad blocker and anti-tracker to see them. We don't use ads here so it shouldn't be an issue.
nuts.. I am using Firefox.. all the ad stuff is off, and honey badger (Err privacy badger) thingy is also off..
Darn.. will have to keep looking at the settings..
IPad.. all works.. Leaning towards firefox.. is issue.
Oh yeah, I'm not personally familiar with the terrain around Moab but food for thought.
A lot of mobile antennas tout a lot of gain and while that looks good on paper, the terrain you'll be using it in has a lot to do with how useful that gain will be.
High gain limits your high angle radiation where a standard 1/4 wave antenna is nearly omni-directional with only a slight null off the very tip. In flat land or on a mountain top, that's great! In the mountains and foot hills, high gain can actually limit your ability to get out.
Here where I live, there's almost no horizon. Everywhere you look you're just staring at the side of a mountain. I've had a 5/8w on 2m tri-band antenna on my X and didn't have much better results than my 1/4w Tram anywhere but high on a mountain top. But even at that, it was a wash because I could easily raise the same repeaters with either antenna.
My point of all this is don't shop for antennas based solely on gain numbers. My $13 Tram dual band from Amazon has been a tough antenna to beat and I'm not going to be heart broken if it snaps off on the trail...
@TerryD Thanks for the heads up. I'm fairly familiar with the NPS radios we use for work; they work great when you are out in the open or up on a mesa, but lots of dead spots when you are down in the canyons.
I ended up getting a $15 Tram that was suggested with the Opek hitch mount you linked to on Amazon. There was a good review that used it with a UV-5R so I thought I'd just get it. It looks good enough to get started and I won't be too sad when a tree rips it off the X.
Rule of thumb: Antenna makes the radio. ;-)
seek the high ground your signal will travel. IF no high ground.. You must adapt with what you have and apply Terrain skills, so the Radio wave has best path to the outside world.
Once you achieve Geek status, you will have a secondary antenna system like a Roll up J-pole, to toss in tree For added height. Just to gain more Easy pathway for the radio waves.
Ham Radio.. so much to learn and The system is so basic. They are currently using the HAM Freq in the East coast due to the hurricane. Pretty sure the land lines are down, as with CELL PHONES.. YES... CELL phones the New age Baby pacifier for humans. NO cell phones Humans become Slobbering Goo mess. LOST.. Thus, one must have Plan B!.. BEER= Plan B!. Or other means of comm's. ;-)
Never know when you will need Comms on the trail. I rather be that Guy that has the toy's, and able to make Emergency Comm's when I need it.
I stole this from the OTHER site.. We had a nice Ham Thread going for all sorts of info..
A good Resource to have in the tool box. Spent many years in SAR, and Radio's were always Needed. Got my Ham ticket, to further speed up Rescue and or contact S.O. office for Various items. Like LUNCH.. to the Searchers.. Or Detectives to the scene.. Law Radio would not work.. BUT my $25 one did, and I was able to talk to another ham. For Getting information out that was needed.
just another tool to carry.. and plus its fun.
One posting. from a "Samuel313". back in 2016ish.. He was in MOAB.. and He is a HAM too. For being Prepared on the trail, saved a Life. That is what counts a life saved, using Ham Radio skills.
Doing this as cut & Paste.. if it fails.. to post correctly .. Blame it on the Cheap Whiskey Machine Slot #2. IRISH Whiskey aged 11.5 years. ;-)
added Screen name.. just in case he should be lurking over on this site..
CUT & Lick & Paste.. Photos are just a few.. But gives idea on the events.
A good Read!. had to share.
POSTER: SAMAUEL313 Year 2016 Era
Long Story to follow:
I decided to hit up Rattlesnake trail in Five Mile Pass, Utah yesterday with a friend. We got up to an obstacle called Wayne's World that I was thinking about attempting in my Xterra. There were two ATV riders ahead and one was attempting the obstacle unsuccessfully. His father had ridden a bypass to the top of the obstacle to watch. When it was apparent the ATV attempting the obstacle wouldn't make it up, the father decided to back down the adjacent hill to the bottom to help extricate the ATV. As the back tires of the father's ATV came off a 6" rock ledge, he locked up his rear tires and the ATV's nose started pointing skywards. The man fell off and the ATV then rolled on top of him (this is a 650+ lb utility ATV with several gear bags on the back and a winch in the front), continued and landed on its wheels, rolling down the rest of the hill. I was standing about 10 feet away on the hill when it happened and ran over to him. He was conscious and in incredible pain. Either the handlebars or his motocross helmet lacerated his lower lip and he was bleeding profusely from his mouth. He was also complaining of severe lower back pain. I told him to lay on his back, to keep his helmet on, and that we'd get him medical attention ASAP.
Nobody had cell service up the canyon so I pulled out my trusty HAM radio and pinged a repeater that I know has lots of traffic in Utah and Salt Lake Counties. Immediately, a fellow responded and called 911 on my behalf.
By this time, the gentleman had insisted on getting to his feet in search of a comfortable place to sit, despite my protestations. Being that all of the other vehicles were huge JK's on 40s and Razr's, the front seat of the Xterra was obviously where he would be most comfortable. His son other individuals helped him into the front seat and adjusted the back to where he was most comfortable.
The dispatcher relayed the information to the local fire department and DNR (Department of Natural Resources) and within about 30 minutes we had DNR officers arrive in their side-by-side and a little while later some off-roaders had brought the EMT's on site from the parking lot in their personal side-by-sides.
The small rock ledge on the upper right corner is where the ATV flipped. The ATV can be seen on the left.
Once the EMT's had attended to the individual, it was determined to bring in a helicopter to life flight him out of the canyon to the hospital.
The helicopter picked a landing site about a 1/4-mile away. The flight nurses considered carrying him out on a back board, but ultimately asked if I wouldn't mind driving the patient, EMT and flight nurse back to the helicopter on an access road as gently as possible. I acquiesced and a convoy of vehicles followed.
I am glad I was able to help and get the man the medical attention he needed. Having a HAM radio in my vehicle got him to the hospital at least an hour sooner.
TLDR: Used my HAM radio to call for help for an injured ATV rider. Helicopter came and I transported the patient to the landing site in my Xterra.
BTW, is there an Xterra achievement for using your Xterra as an ambulance?
OK.... I have a question about tennis balls and antennas. How do ya'll fasten the tennis ball to the antenna to keep it from moving?
I drilled a hole through the tennis ball and got the ball over the end of the antenna, but it seems to me that the ball will want to move out of position as I drive, or as it gets banged around out on the trail.
Is silicon glue the answer?
i do not have CB... But would a Zip tie on top of the Ball work?. A good heavy duty style.
Hmmmm ...... Didn't even think of that. It is worth a shot. Thanks for the idea.
hope it works.. for yea.. Might leave slight tail to the zip tie, as a add means to prevent ball form sliding up.
worth a shot.. zip ties are cheap, BUT UV light does kill them.
I've never used a ball so I'm no help there.
What kind of antenna are you using?
Less so if you get UV resistant zip ties.
4 ft Firestick on a spring mount.
You might consider one of the Wilson Firefly antennas and do away with the spring.
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