Buying new rims - tire shop says 5.75 back spacing...?

Pancake81 Apr 4, 2016

  1. Pancake81

    Pancake81 Bought an X

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    I have decided to get some new rims and rubber. Went into my local tire shop today and priced out a package, Hankook mud terrains 265/70/17 with some alloy rims. I was always under the impression that the first gens had a stick backspace of 5.5(?). When talking with the shop he looked it up and was positive it was 5.75. He even called another shop, and they confirmed 5.75.

    If they sell me the 5.75's will they fit?

    Truck is:
    2002 Xterra
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    Supercharged with stock 17's
    RLC front bumper

    Sorry for the newbie questions. But I would be pissed to drop $2,000 and have my tires rub like crazy.
     
  2. Prime

    Prime Some Kind of In Charge? Admin

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    That size works out to a 32x10.50. Which is bang on for tire width. You should be golden. I ran 32x11.50s with just a PML and just had to trim the fender plastic a little. So with 10.50s should be fine.
     
  3. Pancake81

    Pancake81 Bought an X

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    Thanks Prime, you are a wealth of knowledge. I knew the tire size would fit, as that's what I have have always run. I am just a rookie when it comes to backspace, and the shop through me off when they said 5.75. I was positive the stock rims were 5.5 back spacing...

    I was just worried with the different back spacing the tires would rub. So 5.75 is not an issue, correct? Should I ask for 5.5 as appose to the 5.75?
     
  4. caseycamby

    caseycamby Suspension Lift

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    I'm 99.9% sure the stock backspacing on all first gen trucks are 5.5. You could even get away with running a little less than that and give it a wider stance. But you definitely can't go wrong with 5.5.
     
  5. Prime

    Prime Some Kind of In Charge? Admin

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    Okay. So. Factory 17" SE wheels have a +40mm offset. The wheels are 17x8. Convert 40mm to inches, its about 1.5"....

    SO center on the rim is at 4" then you add the 40mm offset that takes the mounting face of the wheel to 5.5" total backspacing.

    Stick to 5.5 or less. You don't want to go to 5.75" backspacing. That will cause problems.
     
  6. Pancake81

    Pancake81 Bought an X

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    Thanks guys, really appreciate it
     
  7. Pancake81

    Pancake81 Bought an X

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    Well I went back and talked to the guys again. They showed me their book that outlines compatable rims with each vehicle. The xterra had a range of offsets that were acceptable, and the rims he wants to sell me were in that range. Although they were 5.75's...

    To top it off, he said they would stick out a touch further than 5.5's, but they would work fine. My understanding was 5.75's would be approximately 1/4" closer in. I am out to lunch?
     
  8. Prime

    Prime Some Kind of In Charge? Admin

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    Yeah. That shop is on crack. The higher the backspacing, the more tucked under the wheel well. Lower backspacing would push the wheels outboard.
     
  9. Pancake81

    Pancake81 Bought an X

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    That's what I thought. Pisses me off, cause they always haggle the best prices
     
  10. caseycamby

    caseycamby Suspension Lift

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    Yeah that's completely false. That would be enough for me not to go back to them.
     
  11. Pancake81

    Pancake81 Bought an X

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    I am going to be honest. I am pretty frustrated with the whole after market rim shopping. I keep paying to have my winters put on, then my summers, and repeat. $80 a pop adds up after a few years. It seems hard to walk in a shop and get an affordable rim in 5.5 back spacing. And I really don't know enough to confidentially by a 5 inch back space, or 5.75 back space, etc.

    My local kijiji has a pair of pathfinder take offs for $200. Descent looking rims. If they fit maybe I will just buy them for my winter tires.
     
  12. Prime

    Prime Some Kind of In Charge? Admin

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    What year pathfinder?

    And I agree. Aftermarket rims are difficult sometimes. OE rims will always fit.
     
  13. Pancake81

    Pancake81 Bought an X

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    Pancake81 Bought an X

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    Also, is the center bore (hub size) an issue on the pathfinder rims? I may swap over to warn hubs also, not sure if they are bigger than stock, but something to consider when run shopping too
     
  15. Prime

    Prime Some Kind of In Charge? Admin

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    Yeah. Those wheels wont fit over the front hubs on the X. Especially of you go to warns.
     
  16. Pancake81

    Pancake81 Bought an X

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    Dammit... The search continues
     
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    Pancake81 Bought an X

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    Pancake81 Bought an X

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    Hmm. Well I could stay with the auto hubs. Can you school me on the wheel spacers? What does one need to know?
     
  20. Prime

    Prime Some Kind of In Charge? Admin

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    A wheel spacer reduces the effective backspacing of the wheel. Typically 1¼“ to 1½“. The spacer works by bolting on to your factory lug studs and giving you new ones that are out further. Any lug centric spacer will work just make sure and use red loctite on inner lug nuts to make sure they don't go anywhere.
     
  21. Pancake81

    Pancake81 Bought an X

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    So... Pardon my noob again here. But wouldn't running a wheel spacer be equivelant to running less back spacing, thus making the rim stick out further. Leaving me the same issue of rubbing in the front?

    If not, perhaps I will grab those Titan rims. He has dropped the price to $200 obo
     
  22. Muadeeb

    Muadeeb Bastard Admin from Hell Admin

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    Which is why you would go with a lower BS wheel to compensate for the spacer.
     
  23. Prime

    Prime Some Kind of In Charge? Admin

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    Effectively yes. A 1.25" spacer will take a wheel with 5.5" BS and make it 4.25" BS. It pushes the rim outward. But. Since the tires you're running aren't crazy wide, it may not be an issue.

    Notice, I said "may"
     
  24. Pancake81

    Pancake81 Bought an X

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    So I found some stock 17" supercharged rims (same as I currently have) for sale. I also found some desert runners for a great price. Is there any down side to jumping down to a 15" rim? I know rubber is a bit cheaper, and you have more side wall for airing down and off roaring. But are there any negative effects to mileage etc to running a 15" over a 17" on highway?

    Nissan frontier 6bolt alumn factory rims $200.00 on Kijiji http://www.kijiji.ca/v-tires-rims/calgary/nissan-frontier-6bolt-alumn-factory-rims-200-00/1151109921

    265/65/17 on Kijiji http://www.kijiji.ca/v-tires-rims/edmonton/265-65-17/1125781140

    Only trouble is, they are both 1000km away. I may take the wife's Honda Civic and do the trip though. Pretty cheap on fuel
     
  25. Muadeeb

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    No negative effects to 15 over 17. As you said, rubber is cheaper for 15s. I don't think there will be a huge mileage difference. The biggest issue is you're driving an underpowered brick.
     
  26. Rhaas

    Rhaas Need Bigger Tires Supporting Member

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    Hey guys, wondering if you can help me out. Im looking at getting these rims for my 02' xterra http://www.summitracing.com/parts/lev-16136/overview/ . Would they fit without causing any obstructions. Im doing a 2" bodylift this summer. Also will they fit over the front locking hubs? Thanks!!
     
  27. Prime

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    The 4.1" backspacing is extremely low. As a rule you don't want to go lower than 4.25" so depending on your tire size, you may be in for a bad time.

    They look like they should fit over the hubs.
     
  28. Rhaas

    Rhaas Need Bigger Tires Supporting Member

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    What about this? http://m.summitracing.com/parts/lev-16138 it has a backspacing of 4.5. Would that work. It seems level 8 rims doesnt make the matte black with the correct bolt pattern and the correct offset. Unless somebody know if they do. But the gunmetal is cool. I think it should have a nice contrast with the superblack paint.
     
  29. harryron

    harryron Suspension Lift Supporting Member

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    Why don't you want to go lower than 4.25 back spacing?

    sent from the middle of a corn field.
     
  30. KChurch86

    KChurch86 Titan Swapped / SAS'd Founding Member

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    On our trucks, lower backspacing becomes a problem because it makes the inside edge of the tire stick out further. At full lock, the inner shoulder of the tire will rub on the back edge of the front fender.

    The first set of wheels and tires I bought were only 31x10.5r15's, but the wheels had 3.75" of backspacing. They rubbed baaad, even on pavement. I had to turn my steer stops out all the way and they still hit.
     
  31. granitex

    granitex Skid Plates Founding Member

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    Plus when it is at full stuff it will do way more than just rub, both front and back.
     
  32. Rhaas

    Rhaas Need Bigger Tires Supporting Member

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    So do you guys think a 4.500" backspace will not cause issues?
     
  33. Joey

    Joey First Fill-Up (of many)

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    How wide is the rim?
     
  34. Rhaas

    Rhaas Need Bigger Tires Supporting Member

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    The rim is 7 inches wide.
     
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    Prime Some Kind of In Charge? Admin

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    I think those will look and work great. Though I don't see a measurement on the hub diameter.
     
  37. Rhaas

    Rhaas Need Bigger Tires Supporting Member

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    Thanks Prime!! I'll look around and try to find dimensions on hub diameter.
     
  38. Rhaas

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    That was quick. It says Center Bore Diameter (in): 4.177 in. ​So that should work?
     
  39. Prime

    Prime Some Kind of In Charge? Admin

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    Yeah, should fit great.
     
  40. akuria

    akuria Wheeling

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    man. those wheels look a lot like the nismo wheels. they look sick...
     

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