Back tires hit frame

Intender May 17, 2015

  1. Intender

    Intender Wheeling

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    I noticed during a trip yesterday that when stuffed completely my back tires are hitting the frame and the little section of sheet metal above the frame. Rubbing the frame is not a big deal, but the sheet metal is cutting into my tires and taking little chunks out of my inside lugs uploadfromtaptalk1431885025313.jpg . uploadfromtaptalk1431884959441.jpg

    Two questions
    Anybody else have this problem?
    Any reason to not beat the sheat metal back with a hammer.
     
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  2. caseycamby

    caseycamby Suspension Lift

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    I've never noticed having that problem and we pretty much have the same setup, aside from your rear shock mounts. I wouldn't see why you couldn't "fender roll" it or even trim it up and take the edge off of it.
     
  3. SRStaff

    SRStaff Bought an X

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    Not too suprising. OEM BS wheels with 31's rubs slightly when stuffed. Not as bad as yours currently does though. The revolvers also shift the leaf springs around more to help create more contact with the frame. You are also tipping in 12.5 wide 33's. You went 3/4" less BS on the wheels. Essentially added 1" back due to 12.5" wide tire and magnafied it with another 1" in height so the tire sidewall/tread corner will tip in even more. Three options to correct it on hitting frame. Narrower tire swap revolvers back to regular shackles, or even less BS. Most choose less BS.
     
  4. TJTJ

    TJTJ Skid Plates Founding Member

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    I use 1.5" rear spacers to reduce rear BS, but not front.

    That solved the inner frame rub.

    I also bent up the "wings" that stuck out from the bumpstop mounts back there for the same reason.


    I went with rear spacers, instead of rims with less BS, so one spare could cover any corner, and I maintain my front steering radius and tire clearance.
     
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  5. Intender

    Intender Wheeling

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    Never really planned on getting spacers but i guess i may have to.
     
  6. TJTJ

    TJTJ Skid Plates Founding Member

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    That or a tube of KY for the frame....
     
  7. Fromfrontier2Xterra

    Fromfrontier2Xterra I spend more money on comic books than my X Super Moderator Supporting Member

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    Saw the preview on mobile and checked this thread out like....

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    Haha. As said before. Wheel spacers.

    Sent via my walkie talkie
     
  8. caseycamby

    caseycamby Suspension Lift

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    Do your wheels not have 3.75 backspacing?
     
  9. Intender

    Intender Wheeling

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    No, they are 4.25

    If they were 3.75 I dont even want to imagine how much i would have had to cut on the front fenders.
     
  10. caseycamby

    caseycamby Suspension Lift

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    Hmm.. I'm running the 3.75s and don't have a problem with frame or sheet metal rubbing on the back. And I didn't have to trim THAT much for the front...
     
  11. Intender

    Intender Wheeling

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    Doing things like this definitely causes it to rub, but i have heard it make contact with the sheet metal just driving on some rough trails
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  12. TJTJ

    TJTJ Skid Plates Founding Member

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    3.75 BS is like the OEM 5.5" BS with 1.25" spacers.

    Your fronts need more trimming depending on tire size and how hard you wheel it up front, etc....and, how much rub you have vs how much you consider OK.

    I've seen guy who's front tire's were binding in the wells (Viewable from outside, spotting, etc..) who swear they don't have rub.

    :D
     
  13. Frogstar7055

    Frogstar7055 Wheeling

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    I did 1.5" spacers in back to solve same problem.
     
  14. robcarync

    robcarync Sliders

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    My 32" tires rub there and I just have tall shackles on the back with no sway bar.

    Wheel spacers are on my list at some point...
     
  15. Prime

    Prime Some Kind of In Charge? Admin

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    Yeah. I'm on OE wheels and they rub like crazy in the back. Was just thinking about spacers.
     
  16. TJTJ

    TJTJ Skid Plates Founding Member

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    Yeah, I first put the spacers on the 2001 back in 2002 or so IIRC....to cure the frame rub back there....works like a charm, plus, widens the stance for better COG, etc.

    If it were not for front tire issues, we'd all be better off with less BS rims to start with....but the live axle in back and IFS in front means rear spacers are the least complicated solution.
     
  17. Roadwarrior

    Roadwarrior Titan Swapped / SAS'd Founding Member

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    When I was this stuffed with 1.5in spacers on stock wheels, I was only barely rubbing..

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  18. Prime

    Prime Some Kind of In Charge? Admin

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    Did you run them in the front too?
     
  19. Roadwarrior

    Roadwarrior Titan Swapped / SAS'd Founding Member

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    Yes I had them front and rear.

    Minimal trimming on the front.. and by that I think I took off a 3in long (might have been 2in) by 1/2" or 3/4" triangle piece on the front fender, backside of the fender
     
  20. Prime

    Prime Some Kind of In Charge? Admin

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    I've already cut that back side of the fender all the way back to the tub. It can't be cut anymore.
     
  21. Roadwarrior

    Roadwarrior Titan Swapped / SAS'd Founding Member

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    Then I don't see why you wouldn't run spacers.. I loved the slightly wider spread I had, made me feel more stable, then the rear tires tuck better.. Overall.. one of the better mods I did..
     
  22. Prime

    Prime Some Kind of In Charge? Admin

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    Me either!
     
  23. TJTJ

    TJTJ Skid Plates Founding Member

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    In the rear, spacers are a no brainer.

    In the front though, for the same trimming, you'd be able to run larger tires with 5.5" BS than with less BS.

    If you've maxed out the trim area with 5.5" of BS, and now fit the tires you want, reducing front BS will make the tires not fit off road, if there was no room left to start with.
     
  24. Prime

    Prime Some Kind of In Charge? Admin

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    There is room though. My only points of contact in the front are the LCAs and the protective cover over the fuel lines. So maybe bumping the tires out will fix that. Maybe not a full inch and a half, but an inch or so?
     
  25. xterror04

    xterror04 Site sponsor Founding Member

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    With all this interest in spacers I will have some for sale soon.. Who wants dibs? Lol
     
  26. Prime

    Prime Some Kind of In Charge? Admin

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    Sign me up for that.
     
  27. TJTJ

    TJTJ Skid Plates Founding Member

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    Its more likely to make you hit at the lower corners of the well by your front doors though.
     
  28. Roadwarrior

    Roadwarrior Titan Swapped / SAS'd Founding Member

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    I don't think you read the part where he's trimmed that 'front corner' all the way back to the tub.. Also he has an RLC front bumper, so I doubt it rubbing there.. The LCA is probably the culprit if you didn't change your turn stops when you upgraded the wheels/tires
     
  29. Prime

    Prime Some Kind of In Charge? Admin

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    No. I did t want to sacrifice turning radius for a little rubbing.
     

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