All The Bad Auto Advice On The Web.....

westslope

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This thread is part rant, part cathartic release, part exasperation, part helplessness.


I cannot believe all the bad advice and mistaken opinions I sometimes read in some corners of the web on automobile maintenance.

In late 2015, we bought a new 2015 Kia Soul EX+. 2.0 litre GDI engine. Works fine. Does the Fraser Canyon at 120 km/h (~75 miles/hour) just fine. (Says he with a sheepish grin and recommendation to others to not do the same.)

I frequent the Kia Soul Forums. Great folks, nice, decent, polite, friendly, helpful. Some of the opinions/analysis are mistaken and way over the top.

These GDI engines can easily carbon up if driven at modest speeds for short durations. For many drivers, they will require some extra maintenance.

I read folks who are getting recommendations from dealerships to add fuel additives or to clean the throttle body and plate and they are reacting by assuming that the dealership wants to "bend them over". Naturally, these folks could save money by going the DIY route but if they are not already doing that or are not well informed, why the paranoid bashing of the dealership?

Lots of folks are still using dinosaur oil. Others are claiming that short oil changes are necessary even if using quality synthetic oil. Mind you, I recall auto mechanics in SW BC were very skeptical about synthetic motor oil in the late 1990s though I believe that skepticism has disappeared in recent decades. In other words, if auto mechanics do not know what they are doing, is it reasonable to expect ordinary auto consumers to know what they are doing?

Frankly, if one has to rely on 'Authority arguments' -- and we all do at some point -- between a regular dude and an engineer who works for Exxon Mobil, I am inclined to believe the engineer who works for a massively capitalized, dividend-paying, high-profile, litigation-target company like Exxon Mobil.

I also on occasion get the impression that some folks are overextending their budget on a new vehicle purchase and then skimping on maintenance from motor oil choices to tire replacement.

If you are starving student and buying used tires is your best option -- fine. Otherwise, IMO, one should buy a vehicle within a budget that allows for high quality synthetic motor oil changes and top tier tires.

For some people on modest incomes, impressing family, friends, co-workers and neighbours can come at a high cost.

All this to say, there appears to be a lot of received wisdom out there that is misleading folks and ultimately costing them more anguish, frustration and money.


None of the above applies to Xterra owners who tend to be hands-on, intensive maintenance owners. If you go off the rails on this and similar fora, somebody will usually correct you.


- end of rant, thanks for reading -
 

maillet282

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It’s similar to all of the medical advice I’ve heard people chat about. Specially people who come to my medical clinic telling me that they googled their symptoms
 

Richard

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It’s similar to all of the medical advice I’ve heard people chat about. Specially people who come to my medical clinic telling me that they googled their symptoms
So I am a cancer survivor thanks to common sense practices. My wife has a friend who sells "supplemants". When she heard of my diaganosis she tried to sell me all these "supplements". I stated I would prefer to stick to tried and true proven successful methods. She was upset, but I am also alive and well. I think a lot of "supplement" market is pyramiding and making the green personally. Sure there are some that aid in good health, but not curing and stopping cancer.
 

maillet282

If you bleeding, Imma fix you
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So I am a cancer survivor thanks to common sense practices. My wife has a friend who sells "supplemants". When she heard of my diaganosis she tried to sell me all these "supplements". I stated I would prefer to stick to tried and true proven successful methods. She was upset, but I am also alive and well. I think a lot of "supplement" market is pyramiding and making the green personally. Sure there are some that aid in good health, but not curing and stopping cancer.
Congrats on beating the odds. And your Wright. Lots of the supplement/vitamins out there are unnecessary if you have proper nutrition but i just a glorified bandaid peaked at my job right now
 

maillet282

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oh a bad tid bit of info for cars floating aroud:

cleaning your headlights with high deet bug repellant will melt the headlights lense and chew it up in no time at all
 

westslope

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It’s similar to all of the medical advice I’ve heard people chat about. Specially people who come to my medical clinic telling me that they googled their symptoms

No kidding, eh?

All, the same, the internet got a push from people seeking medical advise on the UseNet groups way back in the day, or so I have read. There is good information, if you know how to critically read.

I like to amuse/annoy people by pointing out the similarities between auto mechanics and doctors. Part science, part art, part intuition, professionals are bound to make mistakes. At least they tend to be honest mistakes unlike Dentistry where fraud appears to be much more prevalent.
 
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westslope

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So I am a cancer survivor thanks to common sense practices. My wife has a friend who sells "supplemants". When she heard of my diaganosis she tried to sell me all these "supplements"......

First, well done! Second, instead of or in addition to common sense, you could have used science. Most fad supplements have no supporting clinical trial evidence whatsoever. A varied diet with a good 'fresh' component, whole grains, sea-food, lots of exercise, good sleep and call it a day.

I sometimes experiment with medicine where the study results are often ambiguous at best. Such as swallowing garlic to repel biting flies. Studies have failed to show significant effect but the remedy is very popular across many cultures. Garlic cloves are inexpensive and nutritious so if the garlic fails to repel insects then not all is lost. :)

Have used garlic in biting fly country for decades. I believe it helps. It is one small part of a much larger program (light-coloured head-to-toe clothing, no perfume!, smokey fires and smudge fires as required, mosquito spirals, DEET on clothing collars if required, bug jackets and head nets in the NWT....).
 

TerryD

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I worked in auto parts for about 4 years (little over). The silly stuff people come up with is amazing. This was before facebook is what it is now.

Tried to correct a guy who was thoroughly convinced his 1996 Cavalier measured the cranking amperage during starting to set the idle speed and flew totally off the handle when I explained that it was a combination of the coolant temperature and intake air temperature that was used and it would be fine to top off his oil with 10w30 if his chosen brand since the 5w30 was currently out of stock...
 
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