18x9 DPR Commando matte black wheels with 285/65r18 Toyo Open Country tires

doo Feb 2, 2015

  1. doo

    doo Test Drive Founding Member

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    I'll be massaging this initial post a few times to update the info but here we go! I'm going to try to make this informational as well as a chance for me to show off my new wheels (or fail miserably in front of everyone's eyes).

    My current tires are spent! I've been wanting to get new rims and tires for a long time and I've finally put my order in (they are suppose to ship Feb 9th). As we all know wheels are somewhat limited for our trucks considering offset and bolt pattern. I searched exhaustively for what I liked and I kept coming back to the DPR line of wheels especially the Commando's. And who doesn't like going commando.. The offset is way -off- but the wheels can be custom drilled for virtually any bolt pattern.

    Here are all the baseline numbers that I believe to be true:

    Stock Wheel Specifications
    • 6x114.3 bolt pattern (metric - mm)
    • 6x4.5 bolt pattern (SAE - inches)
    • Wheel lugs/nuts share a thread of 12mm x 1.25
    • 16x7 wheel (at least on my base/X model)
    • Wheel weight: ~25lbs
    • 30mm offset (from my experience offset is what the wheel manufacturers reference)
    • ~5.2” backspacing
    Stock Tire Specifications (based on X model OEM replacement BFG Radial Long Trail T/A's)
    • 265/70R16
    • 30.6" tall, 10.6" wide
    • Tire Weight: 35lbs
    And here is what I ended up purchasing!
    - Awesome wheel and tire size calculator that I used a lot during this process: http://www.rimsntires.com/specspro.jsp

    DPR Commando Matte Black (specs are based on how I ordered mine)
    • 6x114.3 bolt pattern
    • 18x9 wheel
    • Wheel weight: ~40lbs (according to a rep at DPR)
    • 10mm 0mm offset (closest I could get with clearance for calipers because of rim design, they test fit a 10mm and it hit the caliper)
    • The inside edge of the rim will sit 4mm (~0.2") deeper than the stock wheel
    • The outside edge of the rim will stick out about 46mm (~1.8") more than the stock wheel
    Toyo Open Country A/T II
    • 285/65R18
    • 32.6" tall (+2" over stock)
    • 11.5" wide (+~1" over stock)
    • Tire Weight: 58lbs
    • There appears to be some secret sauce with these tires.'Xtreme' sizes feature a deeper tread depth, and a more aggressive tread and shoulder design. If you go to toyo's site and look at the specs you'll see XT in the construction column if the tire has this feature.
    • My tire selection wasn't overly analytical. I wanted an AT, aggressive + attractive sidewall, with good overall reviews. I narrowed my results to something like 5 different tires. The battle ultimately came down to these Toyo's and the new BFG ko2's. The deciding factor was tire weight. I found several sites and forums talking about how heavy the ko2's are. Over 71lbs! However I just looked at the manufacturers website and they are listing them at just over 58lbs now. So.... Maybe they sent out the wrong specs initially? If so that makes me really sad because at the time of ordering the ko2's were on sale via 4wheelparts, were cheaper than the Toyo's, and I liked the sidewall the best.
    - ordered from carid.com (pretty good experience so far)
    - carid includes a free 'install kit' new lugs etc
    - they are being assembled and delivered to my door
    - I decided to put in new TPMS sensors
    - installing on a stock height xterra
     

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    Last edited: Feb 10, 2015
  2. Timrich

    Timrich Super Duper Moderator Founding Member

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    Just let me know when you get up and I'll be there for the install!
     
  3. doo

    doo Test Drive Founding Member

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    Time for a little vent on customer service. Don't you love how you get great service before buying something and then afterwards you can't reach a soul? O.k. so I havnt picked up a phone yet but how hard is it to respond to an email. I emailed both the guy who I ordered the DPR wheels from (carid.com) and the rep from DPR (manufacturer) directly over a week ago and neither have responded. So.. Today I'm doing follow up emails. So annoying.
     
  4. Timrich

    Timrich Super Duper Moderator Founding Member

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    Email then call them.
     
  5. doo

    doo Test Drive Founding Member

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    what do you know.. once I ***** I finally get answers... Finally heard back from DPR on the wheel weight (updated original post). Still havnt heard from carid.
     
  6. doo

    doo Test Drive Founding Member

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    Now that I have manufacturer numbers for the tires and wheels:
    • Numbers based on manufacturer specs
    • 60lbs stock - 240lbs total
    • 98lbs aftermarket - 392lbs total
    • increase of 152lbs - ouch
    Looks like I will need your help to mount Timrich! lol
     
  7. Timrich

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    You know I'm in as long as you have beer! lol
     
  8. doo

    doo Test Drive Founding Member

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    haha.. like there is any question I have frosties in the fridge.. I'm expecting tracking information today!
     
  9. Timrich

    Timrich Super Duper Moderator Founding Member

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    Get it!
     
  10. drbandkgb

    drbandkgb Titan Swapped / SAS'd Founding Member

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    Mmmm beer
     
  11. Timrich

    Timrich Super Duper Moderator Founding Member

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    Come on down dave!
     
  12. doo

    doo Test Drive Founding Member

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    might need lots of beers by the time these things get in.. IF they get in.. I'll have to update my original post.. I finally got through to them today on an update. DPR supposedly JUST drilled the wheels, test fit them, and they hit the calipers with the 10mm offset. He said they will work with 0 offset. So I need to use the calculator (http://www.rimsntires.com/specspro.jsp) again and see if I want to work with that.. The rep from car ID said the rims would line up with the fenders.
     
  13. doo

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    If I went with 0 offset and IF he was right and the wheel would match the fender.. the tires I have spec'd out would stick out by 1.1" inches from the fender. Based on the calculator the tires would stick out 1.6" in regards to the location of the original tire.
     
    Last edited: Feb 9, 2015
  14. Timrich

    Timrich Super Duper Moderator Founding Member

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    Me thinks you may need a BL for these
     
  15. doo

    doo Test Drive Founding Member

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    I'm sick of wheel shopping...... so... I gave them the go ahead.. It's going to be interesting
     
  16. Timrich

    Timrich Super Duper Moderator Founding Member

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    Break out the angle grinder!
     
  17. drbandkgb

    drbandkgb Titan Swapped / SAS'd Founding Member

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    Tim.. You need to come help with KGB's BL :)

    I can't wait to see these rims
     
  18. Timrich

    Timrich Super Duper Moderator Founding Member

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    If i had more vacation I would! I'd like to go to Moab too but that's not happening. ..lol
     
  19. doo

    doo Test Drive Founding Member

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    you and I both! lol but it looks like I won't see them until late next week if not the week after... I ordered on 1/22.. I have no idea how these guys on car shows can get custom wheels overnighted but I guess it's who you know and how deep your pockets are.
     
  20. Timrich

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    Well ill be in NYC at the end of next week so it's good you won't get them till I get back...lol
     
  21. doo

    doo Test Drive Founding Member

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    nah.. that means I'll get them while you are out of town.. no one ever gets to hang around during my installs..it's how I roll
     
  22. Timrich

    Timrich Super Duper Moderator Founding Member

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    Wha? I helped with the headers!
     
  23. doo

    doo Test Drive Founding Member

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    lol.. yeah for a couple hours.. they took like 9 if not more.. But I def liked you helping out. So I emailed for an update earlier today on the wheels. Haven't heard back yet.
     
  24. Timrich

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    Hey its not my fault the o2 sensor was in the wrong spot...lol
     
  25. doo

    doo Test Drive Founding Member

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    Well if you want to include the time for re-installing the passenger side header it was more like 11 hours.

    I've learned carid has basically no email support. They do seem good on the phone. I finally received tracking information last night. They are suppose to arrive Monday. The only thing I find a tad annoying/bothersome is they shipped directly from DPR. I was told they would ship from DPR (CA) to a carid facility (I assume NJ) for assembly. One of carid's sales tactics was promising the best mount and balance on the planet (cough cough). So right now I'm under the impression that if you order DPR wheels expect them to take forever. And if you order from carid they don't follow up on your orders to keep them on track. Also I was told directly from a DPR rep that 10mm offset would work for my truck and when they tested it they were wrong delaying the order even farther. IF I get the wheels Monday it will have taken them a month and a day.
     
  26. doo

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    update:
    I jumped the gun a little, carid has a fulfillment center in Cali, that's why they are coming form there. I thought they were coming from DPR because of coming from Cali and that the reference notes said DPR. I got that straightened out. I left them a suggestion/comment about their customer service. Basically stating they need systems in place that if they don't have wheels in their facility a few days before an estimated ship date they need to follow up. It took me writing an email on the exact estimated shipping day for them to check and DPR hadn't really done any work.

    take aways:
    • DPR is slow
    • carid needs to follow up on orders better
     
  27. Timrich

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    Well at least you have an idea of when they will be here.
     
  28. Xterz

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    Sorry for bumping up this old thread. I'm torn between getting a Nitto trail grappler or Toyo open country tires. Would like to know your feedback on the tires since you mentioned that "There appears to be some secret sauce with it." Is there any premature wearing? Some people say they choose it due to its affordable price but is it true that it's heavier?
     

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