Battery Choices

Just a Hunter

Bought an X
Location
Georgia
I hope I'm not the only person here which considers price vs value/quality when making a costly purchase.
This decision can be awkwardly difficult when choosing a battery for your vehicle.

As an example, there are only three battery manufactures which supply the overwhelming majority of todays retail brands regardless of where your shopping.
To be clear, im making reference to Johnson Control, Exide and Eastern Penn/Deka.
Of these three, Johnson Control has the majority of the market share.

As often happens, people tend to become brand loyal and you will often hear opinions such as "If it was me, I would purchase an NAPA battery rather than a Interstate, Duralast or Everstart. However, all four of these batteries may be manufactured by Johnson Control.

To further cloud this situation, your likely to find the specs of these four batteries to be basically identical, but your warranties may vary as widely as their prices.

It's possible the companies which are branded on the labels may request different specs to their battery, but in this case I honestly doubt they could be very different between one and another.

Auto parts are a very competitive market where the profit margin may not be as large as some might assume.
For this reason, todays auto part retailers are very focused on the price point vs profit margins of the products they sell.

In the battery market, this can be especially true.
For example, lets look at a few similar batteries. [2017 prices]

Autocraft Gold 640cca size 35. (Said to be a JC) Advance Auto. $141.99

Duralast Gold 640cca size 35 (said to be a JC) Autozone $139.99

Diehard Gold 640cca size 35 (said to be JC)item # 51835 Sears $142.00

Everstart Maxx 640cca size 35 (said to be JC) Walmart $94 (everyday price?)

Obviously, it should be no coincidence that all four of these batteries are rated as having 640cca's.
In addition, besides the Walmart battery, the other three batteries are very similar in their prices.
Lets not overlook the warranties of these batteries all include a standard 3yr replacement.

I suspect there is very little if any difference in at least three of these batteries.
If there was, you would likely see a larger price spread and or difference in their cold cranking amps in an attempt to differentiate themselves from their competition.

It may be that Walmarts purchasing power has allowed them to purchase their batteries at a lower priceline which in turn is returned to the customer in savings. It's also possible their batteries have been manufactured with some cost savings changes.

So what is a person to do?

I would suggest making your purchase based on the company which manufacturers your battery rather than the store name branded on its side.

With this in mind, focus on length of warranty and price.
Lastly, refer to the list below to help determine whom makes your battery.

Re: Who makes my battery:

Warning: Retailers are fully capable of changing from one manufacturer to another and the below list may not be fully accurate.
For this reason, I would suggest performing your own research prior to making a purchase.

Autocraft: Johnson Controls
Sears- Diehard: Lead Acid- Johnson Controls, Platinum AGM- Odyssey, Gold Advanced AGM- Eastern- Penn.
Interstate- Johnson Controls.
Walmart Everstart- Johnson Controls (Exide Contract Cancelled).
Autozone Duralast- Lead Acid- Johnson Controls, AGM- East-Penn.
Pep Boys (including Bosch)- As of Aug 2012 Exide
Napa- Lead Acid- Johnson Controls; AGM- East-Penn.
Optima- Johnson Controls.
Varta AGM- Fall 2012- Johnson Controls in a new US plant.
Costco-Johnson Controls.
Northstar- Northstar and also distributed by Batteries Plus as the X2Power and Exide under the Northstar label.
Duracell- East Penn (Deka)
Rayovac (Batteries Plus)- Lead Acid- Johnson Controls; AGM- East Penn (Deka)
Deka- East Penn
 

Just a Hunter

Bought an X
Location
Georgia
Autozone Duralast Platinum 24F AGM for nearly two years.

I would have no problem repurchasing this battery in the future.

Please share the brand of your battery and your opinion of it.
 
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IM1RU

Skid Plates
Supporting Member
Location
SLC, UT
I ran an Optima red top for a while, but it pooped the bed, I think from all the vibrations off road.

Been running the Odyssey for almost 4 years (October 2015). No issues at all. That said I do have the Odyssey Charger too that I hook up not as often as I should.
 
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jsexton

Need Bigger Tires
Location
Lewis Center, OH
I run the sears agm by deka too.

I started switching to all east penn/deka 6 years ago after having tons of problems with Johnson controls batteries. I’ve had much better luck with east penn/deka lately. 15 years ago Johnson made decent batteries. Something changed.

Replacing a 6.5 year old deka marine starting battery in my boat tomorrow with the oreilly house brand made by east penn/deka tomorrow.
 

westslope

Wheeling
For years, I ran Trojan Deep Cycle 27 class batteries in the 1993 WD-21 Nissan Pathfinder. Worked great and I used it to power music, radio or charge the cell phone when way back in the bush without worries. On the odd occasion, I took it out to run the 52 lb. thrust electric trolling motor.

The Trojan Deep Cycle batteries do not easily fit the X so when I had to replace the battery a couple of years ago, I bought a Canada Proof G24FAGM battery. The Optima batteries have a great reputation but the price was just off the wall (between C$400 and C$500 from memory).

Questions:

Anybody else running Deep Cycle marine batteries in their 4X4s or is that simply a bad idea?

Who makes Trojan batteries?
 

TerryD

Total Tease
Supporting Member
Location
Covington, Va
I picked up an Advance Auto Parts Autocraft Platinum AGM for the Xterra this summer. It's been doing a great job for me. I have the Everstart batteries in my K2500 and the wife's Malibu because I was aware that there was only a few manufactures out there (acquaintance that works for JC) and had my suspicions that the Wal-Mart stuff was theirs. I've run their batteries in the Autocraft flavor for years now since I worked at Advance for several years and got a discount as well them having a good warranty.
 

Tay-Lo

I'm the king of junk food!
Location
Upstate SC
I've had optima yellow top for atleast 6 years now and have somewhat abused it (winching, running air compressors without turning the engine on, let the X sit for 4 months with a solar trickle charger on it, letting it sit for weeks with no charging, ect) and ive never had a weak crank. I figure i can get another couple of years out of it.
 

Fromfrontier2Xterra

I bought a Taco
Super Moderator
Supporting Member
Location
All over PA
Red top optima here. No issues with winching or extended auxiliary drain when cargo area plug used for things when camping / at beach while not running. Cold starts never an issue while in PA or NY.
 

Allshookup

Test Drive
Location
Burleson, TX
I've always had good success with Interstate Batteries.
MTP-35
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30 Month Warranty / Free Replacement / 6 Year Performance Warranty
640 Cold Cranking Amps (CCA)
Group Size 35
Suggested Retail Price: $152.95
 

Just a Hunter

Bought an X
Location
Georgia
Out of curiosity, did you choose to stay with the factory 35 sized battery or upgrade to something larger such as a 24F.
Maybe there was another option you found which works equally as well.
 

AdventureRider81

Bought an X
Location
Savannah, GA
After a second Optima yellow top prematurely failed I decided to do more research. What I found...

Optima brand batteries moved production to Mexico in 2008/2009. They have not been the same since. A great thread on Expedition Portal lead me to a NorthStar AGM battery made in St. Louis. Only had it for a few months. No issues.

https://www.northstarbattery.com/product/elt-agm35

Many liked Odyssey on there has well.
 

Prime

Shut up Baby, I know it!
Admin
Location
Denver Adjacent
After a second Optima yellow top prematurely failed I decided to do more research. What I found...

Optima brand batteries moved production to Mexico in 2008/2009. They have not been the same since. A great thread on Expedition Portal lead me to a NorthStar AGM battery made in St. Louis. Only had it for a few months. No issues.

https://www.northstarbattery.com/product/elt-agm35

Many liked Odyssey on there has well.
Good to know.

/removes optima from Amazon list
 
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