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So I know some of you, like myself, we're raised on these books. And now with this flood of movies coming out, I thought it would be interesting to have a dedicated discussion about them. Something more in depth than, "Dude, Captain America was awesome!" Address the story line, the characters, what made sense and what doesn't compared to the mythology of these characters. A real discussion.
I'd like to kick it off by bringing up a problem that my dad pointed out last night after we saw Winter Soldier.
With the high proliferation of Marvel movies coming out, and the path that they are taking, their ability to maintain something close to the original mythology is going to be stretched thin. And there is going to reach a point where we just end up remaking the origin stories and rebooting the franchise i.e. Amazing Spider-Man.
The only universe I see as being immune to this is X-Men. While some of the characters do cross over into the Avengers universe there is enough solidarity that they could keep making X-Men movies ad nauseum and never run out of original material.
The Avengers, on the other hand, has a problem. There are good story lines, but they include Spider-Man, Wolverine, and several other characters that, at current, reside in a different universe. The only way to include those characters would be a reboot of the series.
This brings me to another point. Ultron. Really? Ultron? Yes. I get it. He's one villain that makes sense given the character setup we have in this incarnation of Avengers. However, an all knowing all seeing robot is a stupid enemy. They could have come up with so many better stories.
I was happy to see Thanos at the end of Thor (at least I think it was Thor). Thanos is a real villain. And one they could use in Avengers.
Speaking of villains. I just realized something. Apocalypse needs to be an X-Men Villain. But since they killed off Cyclops in the 3rd X-Men movie, we can never have X-Factor without a reboot. Because without Scott Summers, there is no Cable. Or no Strythe. As they are both time traveling versions of the child between Cyclops and Jean Grey. Which removes both The X-ecutioners Song and The X-tinction Agenda from viable story lines. Which sucks. But I'm sure as the actors age they'll have to reinvent X-Men as well.
I did approve of what they did with The Punisher movies a few years ago. You had the one origin movie, which wasn't terrible. And then the second one wasn't a sequel, BUT it just assumed that everyone knew who he was and what he was about and told a story. That was a good way to handle it.
By no means is this limited to Marvel movies. Please, let's talk about how much I hate Super Man. Heh. Marvel is just where my greatest familiarity is. So I can talk about it a lot.
I'd like to kick it off by bringing up a problem that my dad pointed out last night after we saw Winter Soldier.
With the high proliferation of Marvel movies coming out, and the path that they are taking, their ability to maintain something close to the original mythology is going to be stretched thin. And there is going to reach a point where we just end up remaking the origin stories and rebooting the franchise i.e. Amazing Spider-Man.
The only universe I see as being immune to this is X-Men. While some of the characters do cross over into the Avengers universe there is enough solidarity that they could keep making X-Men movies ad nauseum and never run out of original material.
The Avengers, on the other hand, has a problem. There are good story lines, but they include Spider-Man, Wolverine, and several other characters that, at current, reside in a different universe. The only way to include those characters would be a reboot of the series.
This brings me to another point. Ultron. Really? Ultron? Yes. I get it. He's one villain that makes sense given the character setup we have in this incarnation of Avengers. However, an all knowing all seeing robot is a stupid enemy. They could have come up with so many better stories.
I was happy to see Thanos at the end of Thor (at least I think it was Thor). Thanos is a real villain. And one they could use in Avengers.
Speaking of villains. I just realized something. Apocalypse needs to be an X-Men Villain. But since they killed off Cyclops in the 3rd X-Men movie, we can never have X-Factor without a reboot. Because without Scott Summers, there is no Cable. Or no Strythe. As they are both time traveling versions of the child between Cyclops and Jean Grey. Which removes both The X-ecutioners Song and The X-tinction Agenda from viable story lines. Which sucks. But I'm sure as the actors age they'll have to reinvent X-Men as well.
I did approve of what they did with The Punisher movies a few years ago. You had the one origin movie, which wasn't terrible. And then the second one wasn't a sequel, BUT it just assumed that everyone knew who he was and what he was about and told a story. That was a good way to handle it.
By no means is this limited to Marvel movies. Please, let's talk about how much I hate Super Man. Heh. Marvel is just where my greatest familiarity is. So I can talk about it a lot.
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