Switches and You

Oz_X

First Fill-Up (of many)
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Switches and You

Selecting a Switch
There are three important features to consider when selecting a switch:
• Contacts (e.g. single pole, double throw)
• Ratings (maximum voltage and current)
• Method of Operation (toggle, slide, key etc.)

Switch Contacts
Several terms are used to describe switch contacts:
• Pole - number of switch contact sets.
• Throw - number of conducting positions, single or double.
• Way - number of conducting positions, three or more.
• Momentary - switch returns to its normal position when released.
• Open - off position, contacts not conducting.
• Closed - on position, contacts conducting, there may be several on positions.

For example: the simplest on-off switch has one set of contacts (single pole) and one switching position which conducts (single throw). The switch mechanism has two positions: open (off) and closed (on), but it is called 'single throw' because only one position conducts.

Circuit symbol for a simple on-off switch:
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Switch Contact Ratings
Switch contacts are rated with a maximum voltage and current, and there may be different ratings for AC and DC. The AC values are higher because the current falls to zero many times each second and an arc is less likely to form across the switch contacts. For low voltage electronics projects the voltage rating will not matter, but you may need to check the current rating. The maximum current is less for inductive loads (coils and motors) because they cause more sparking at the contacts when switched off.


Standard Switches
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ON-OFF; Single Pole, Single Throw = SPST

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A simple on-off switch. This type can be used to switch the power supply to a circuit.
When used with mains electricity this type of switch must be in the live wire, but it is better to use a DPST switch to isolate both live and neutral.

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SPST toggle switch

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(ON)-OFF; Push-to-make = SPST Momentary

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A push-to-make switch returns to its normally open (off) position when you release the button, this is shown by the brackets around ON. This is the standard doorbell switch.

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Push-to-make switch

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ON-(OFF); Push-to-break = SPST Momentary

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A push-to-break switch returns to its normally closed (on) position when you release the button.

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Push-to-break switch

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ON-ON; Single Pole, Double Throw = SPDT

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This switch can be on in both positions, switching on a separate device in each case. It is often called a changeover switch. For example, a SPDT switch can be used to switch on a red lamp in one position and a green lamp in the other position. A SPDT toggle switch may be used as a simple on-off switch by connecting to COM and one of the A or B terminals shown in the diagram. A and B are interchangeable so switches are usually not labelled.

ON-OFF-ON; SPDT Center Off
A special version of the standard SPDT switch. It has a third switching position in the centre which is off. Momentary (ON)-OFF-(ON) versions are also available where the switch returns to the central off position when released.

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SPDT toggle switch

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SPDT slide switch (PCB mounting)

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SPDT rocker switch

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Dual ON-OFF; Double Pole, Single Throw = DPST

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A pair of on-off switches which operate together (shown by the dotted line in the circuit symbol). A DPST switch is often used to switch mains electricity because it can isolate both the live and neutral connections.

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DPST rocker switch

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Dual ON-ON; Double Pole, Double Throw = DPDT

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A pair of on-on switches which operate together (shown by the dotted line in the circuit symbol).

ON-OFF-ON; DPDT Centre Off
A special version of the standard SPDT switch. It has a third switching position in the centre which is off. This can be very useful for motor control because you have forward, off and reverse positions. Momentary (ON)-OFF-(ON) versions are also available where the switch returns to the central off position when released.

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DPDT slide switch

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There are of course many other types of switches but I think these would cover most things we might need in our Xs. :salute:
 
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Oz_X

First Fill-Up (of many)
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Thanks guys! I did this a while sticky a while ago (more so I could understand it myself). I'm no electrical expert but I wanted at least to know what i was talking about when procuring elect. parts.
 

Ron ap Rhys

Bought an X
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Columbus, OH
Oz - I think the main question to answer that might help folks is what switches would we want to use for our X. For example, if you're putting in fogs and you want the switch to be illuminated with the headlights and when it lights up, what type of switch do you want? I don't believe it's any different when you're wiring up something directly or via a relay, in terms of the switch, so it wouldn't matter if it was fogs, a winch, driving lights, or anything else.
 

Prime

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That's some quality switch information! Rep for sure!

Oz - I think the main question to answer that might help folks is what switches would we want to use for our X. For example, if you're putting in fogs and you want the switch to be illuminated with the headlights and when it lights up, what type of switch do you want? I don't believe it's any different when you're wiring up something directly or via a relay, in terms of the switch, so it wouldn't matter if it was fogs, a winch, driving lights, or anything else.

In that case you need a switch with an independent light that can be sent 12v tapped from the dash illumination and a second light that is lit when the switch is on. Usually these two lights will have separate ground pins, but they can be wired together. Alternatively they could have one pin that serves as ground for both lights.

Take the Carling Contura SPST switches sold by ottraw.com for example. You have your power in and switch out just like any other switch but you also have an independent lower light (hot and ground) and a ground for the upper light. So 5 pins in total.
 

Muadeeb

Nissan al Gaib
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Dallas
Take the Carling Contura SPST switches sold by ottraw.com for example. You have your power in and switch out just like any other switch but you also have an independent lower light (hot and ground) and a ground for the upper light. So 5 pins in total.

Depends on the switch. My Zombie switch is 4 pins: Switch in (also lights on lamp), switch out, upper lamp in, ground
 

Muadeeb

Nissan al Gaib
Admin
Location
Dallas
It's dual illuminated
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Green on top lights up with the headlamps (ILL circuit) and the bottom bar is red when the switch is on
 

Ron ap Rhys

Bought an X
Founding Member
Location
Columbus, OH
I've believe I've got the dual-illuminated model SPST myself. It's one of the Zombie switches. Hopefully I was smart enough to to keep the invoice so I can order the same type of switch in the future.
 

Muadeeb

Nissan al Gaib
Admin
Location
Dallas
If you ordered from OTRATTW, they'll send a wiring doc, but I still recommend you grab a couple of jumpers to make sure it lights the way you think it should. I didn't and wired the top lamp backwards.

Sent via wild ferrets on crack
 

Ron ap Rhys

Bought an X
Founding Member
Location
Columbus, OH
I didn't end up using any jumpers. I pulled illumination from the glove box light, which goes on with the headlights and stays on even if your glove box is closed. I grounded both sides of that to a common ground and then had my normal wires in and out, along with a power line from the fusebox. I need to switch out which one I'm using as it's pulling from an always on item.
 

civicjoe

lone wolf mod
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Nevada
I didn't end up using any jumpers. I pulled illumination from the glove box light, which goes on with the headlights and stays on even if your glove box is closed. I grounded both sides of that to a common ground and then had my normal wires in and out, along with a power line from the fusebox. I need to switch out which one I'm using as it's pulling from an always on item.

aw this is the great knowledge ive been in search of!
 

leo

Bought an X
Location
ny
o men this really cool more i look xterranation more things i fine

is everything here nice job men
 

Xterrorista

Charcoal Briquette
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Denton, TX
Ok so now that I have an idea of the switches I want, I guess it's time to figure out how to wire everything up. I've heard about fuse blocks, power distribution blocks?, panels, relays, etc.. It makes my brain spin. Time to look for answers on where to start.

L
 

maillet282

If you bleeding, Imma fix you
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Ok so now that I have an idea of the switches I want, I guess it's time to figure out how to wire everything up. I've heard about fuse blocks, power distribution blocks?, panels, relays, etc.. It makes my brain spin. Time to look for answers on where to start.

L
This is a good place to start but unfortunately all of the pictures are broken. When I have a bit of spare time I am hoping I will be able to start fixing and replacing the broken pictures in this thread.
 

Me!Here!

Bought an X
Location
Somerville, MA
Ok so now that I have an idea of the switches I want, I guess it's time to figure out how to wire everything up. I've heard about fuse blocks, power distribution blocks?, panels, relays, etc.. It makes my brain spin. Time to look for answers on where to start.

L

Check out CH4x4 for switches they have a line of Xterra specific switches (on Amazon)

 

Xterrorista

Charcoal Briquette
Supporting Member
Location
Denton, TX
Check out CH4x4 for switches they have a line of Xterra specific switches (on Amazon)

Thanks for the heads up. I've been looking at otrattw's but now that I've narrowed it down, or widened it up depending on how I look at it, I've got 8 switches I want to put in.

Fog, bumper KC's, ditch, rock, rear loading, OBA, locker & wench.

Now I need to figure out what I'll need to make it all come together cleanly and safely. I was thinking a Blue Sea fuse box but... ?
I need to find a build where someone has done something similar and I'm sure there are tons of them here..somewhere.

Thanks again

L
 

Prime

Shut up Baby, I know it!
Admin
Location
Denver Adjacent
Thanks for the heads up. I've been looking at otrattw's but now that I've narrowed it down, or widened it up depending on how I look at it, I've got 8 switches I want to put in.

Fog, bumper KC's, ditch, rock, rear loading, OBA, locker & wench.

Now I need to figure out what I'll need to make it all come together cleanly and safely. I was thinking a Blue Sea fuse box but... ?
I need to find a build where someone has done something similar and I'm sure there are tons of them here..somewhere.

Thanks again

L
You should come out tomorrow. Supposed to be meeting @PhullD at some point. You can look at my setup.
 
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