Going Free Float....

[dhyde79]

ok, so, I got some amazon gift cards, decided to order the wife's windham and my DPMS a set of popup sights, and, now I'm looking at getting a free float forend with the leftover funds....

these are my choices...throw me some input:

A:


or

B:

 

[dhyde79]

No help ordered the second one this morning, I'll have it thursday

 

[NismoFire]

Sorry, was at work when I saw this..I don't know that I'd go cheap on a FF rail, personally. Buy once, cry once and all that.

 

[dhyde79]

I may not keep it, that's why...and, effectively, it's free...so, no funds lost

 

[NismoFire]

I like the look of that first one...looks clean and not as gnarly as a normal quad rail. YHM makes something similar but not EXACTLY that.

 

[dhyde79]

I like the look of that first one...looks clean and not as gnarly as a normal quad rail. YHM makes something similar but not EXACTLY that.

Yeah, I liked the LOOK of the first, but the function of the second...it was a tough call...in the end, the adjustable/removable rail system won...

 

[NismoFire]

I didn't see the name of a manufacturer on either...did you? (Looking from my phone)

 

[dhyde79]

I didn't see the name of a manufacturer on either...did you? (Looking from my phone)

Nope I'll have the one I ordered Thursday morning, and will take pics then for you. Gotta figure out how to get the delta ring and the front piece off too...

 

[jmnielsen]

Dang not sure how I missed this. I recently put a troy bravo FF rail, ill see if I can find some pictures for you to help you out. Ill take a look at the link in the second one also and see what it says.

Edit: I took a look at it. Does it mount to the existing barrel nut or does is come with one you have to install yourself? Also, will you be removing the gas block? If you are, is it pinned or does is use a set screw? If you remove the gas block the front piece that holds normal handguards to the gun slides right off. For the delta ring I wrapped the areas of my gun around it with towels and tape, then used a dremel to slowly cut through the delta ring in two spots- 180* from each other. I used a screwdriver to pry it off because I didn't get all the way through. For the spring under the delta ring I used my dremel to cut it in one spot and then pliers to twist/pull the rest of it off. It was a lot easier than it seems. I was scared at first but am glad I did it myself.

There's my delta ring, spring, and naked upper.

 

[dhyde79]

Dang not sure how I missed this. I recently put a troy bravo FF rail, ill see if I can find some pictures for you to help you out. Ill take a look at the link in the second one also and see what it says.

Edit: I took a look at it. Does it mount to the existing barrel nut or does is come with one you have to install yourself? Also, will you be removing the gas block? If you are, is it pinned or does is use a set screw? If you remove the gas block the front piece that holds normal handguards to the gun slides right off. For the delta ring I wrapped the areas of my gun around it with towels and tape, then used a dremel to slowly cut through the delta ring in two spots- 180* from each other. I used a screwdriver to pry it off because I didn't get all the way through. For the spring under the delta ring I used my dremel to cut it in one spot and then pliers to twist/pull the rest of it off. It was a lot easier than it seems. I was scared at first but am glad I did it myself.

There's my delta ring, spring, and naked upper.

It should come with it's own barrel nut.

As for removing the gas block, I was under the impression that I had to, to get the factory barrel nut off

The delta ring, I can't cut off, I need it to be intact in the event I should have to put it back on because I'm unhappy with the free float...

 

[jmnielsen]

Ahh Yess. If it has it's own barrel nut then everything will slide off, no cutting. My troy rail mounted to my existing barrel nut so I had to cut the delta ring and spring off- or take the barrel nut off to get those off then install it again. So I took the easy way out and cut.

 

[dhyde79]

Ahh Yess. If it has it's own barrel nut then everything will slide off, no cutting. My troy rail mounted to my existing barrel nut so I had to cut the delta ring and spring off- or take the barrel nut off to get those off then install it again. So I took the easy way out and cut.

How did the Troy not come with one? The barrel nut is what a free float screws onto...

 

[dhyde79]

There's my delta ring, spring, and naked upper.

I see you have a government profile barrel sir, nice...

 

[jmnielsen]

I see you have a government profile barrel sir, nice...

Thank you! I like it, it suits my needs.

As for the troy not having it's own barrel nut- it comes with these:

What happens is you loosely attach them to the rail, when you slide the rail on the nuts slide under the existing barrel nut and are stopped by the lip on the nuts. I used my carry handle sight Attached to the flat top and rail to keep it perfectly aligned while torqued down the bolts evenly. I was worried it would not be string enough at first, but after research I found a ton of people with troy rails that have been abused in carbine classes and other things with no problems. So I'm not worried about it moving or falling off.

 

[dhyde79]

Thank you! I like it, it suits my needs.

As for the troy not having it's own barrel nut- it comes with these:

What happens is you loosely attach them to the rail, when you slide the rail on the nuts slide under the existing barrel nut and are stopped by the lip on the nuts. I used my carry handle sight Attached to the flat top and rail to keep it perfectly aligned while torqued down the bolts evenly. I was worried it would not be string enough at first, but after research I found a ton of people with troy rails that have been abused in carbine classes and other things with no problems. So I'm not worried about it moving or falling off.

Well, remember, the bravo is the only one that does that mounting style, all other Troy free floats are a barrel but that they screw onto

 

[NismoFire]

http://yhm.net/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=2_4_50&products_id=95

Swoon.

 

[jmnielsen]

I believe the alpha, bravo, and delta rails all mount like that. I know alpha and bravo do, because these were my two finalists.

 

[dhyde79]

Hm, the trx series alphas are new barrel nut...

 

[jmnielsen]

Hm, the trx series alphas are new barrel nut...

TRX series, yes. The regular battlerail alpha and bravo use the existing barrel nut. Centurion, Midwest industries, Samson, I believe some Daniel defense, and a few other brands all have rails that can be used with the existing barrel nut.

 

[dhyde79]

TRX series, yes. The regular battlerail alpha and bravo use the existing barrel nut. Centurion, Midwest industries, Samson, I believe some Daniel defense, and a few other brands all have rails that can be used with the existing barrel nut.

Interesting....I'm not sure I could fully trust that style...

 

[jmnielsen]

Interesting....I'm not sure I could fully trust that style...

I was skeptical, but I always research the crap out of anything I buy, no matter what it be, and the ONLY problems that I saw people had were due to installing incorrectly or the barrel nut actually not being torqued enough which made is loose. Once I installed mine I tried to twist it, pull it, push it, and nothing happened. I have no doubt it will hold up to anything I do with it.

 

[NismoFire]

http://www.dpmsinc.com/3G2-223556_ep_205-1.html


That hand guard is SEXY....but the one listed on the specs isn't the same one in the pic...