Bags, G.H.B or B.O.B. what is in yours?

[dhyde79]

I would argue the need for the stove...it's 72hrs, and you should be A to B'ing it. Stopping for a nice hot meal may well equal failure.

As far as a compass, as long as you know what you're doing with it you're fine. However, I know many military members that couldn't navigate their way out of a cereal bowl with clearly marked exits. (Yes, this reinforces the **you must know how to use your equipment like your life depends on it, because it does*** point)

Communications are and always will be a priority. Get a handheld cb and/or ham radio, preferably one with a disposable battery option, and don't bank on cellphone networks staying online.

Offline gps maps on cellphones= win
Topo maps on GPS units = win
Multiple large standalone battery packs (charge USB capable devices) = massive win

As for food, get the "just add water" meals from Walmart/academy/cabellas/bass pro/gander mtn/etc but, stock on clif bars and kind bars. A meal you can eat while walking is a break you didn't have to force yourself to get up from.

 

[Kuroi_Tora]

Ah, radio....
For hams:
http://www.amazon.com/BaoFeng-136-1...F8&qid=1372900614&sr=8-29&keywords=uv5r+radio
And
http://www.amazon.com/ExpertPower®-Two-way-Radio-Antenna-SMA-Female/dp/B008Y2SPE4/ref=pd_sim_e_6

Now, this is a great, tough programmable radio with a wide frequency range. It comes with a good in-ear speaker/mic system for being sneaky. The antenna that comes with it, however, SUCKS! So replace it immediately. Also, if you get the speaker/mic and a good 2m/70cm antenna, you can also use it as an in-vehicle radio. There are alot of good support accessories for it including extended battery, aaa battery pack, and ac car charger. I recommend yellow because, while its not as tacticool as black, its high visibility if you drop it.

For cb:
http://www.amazon.com/Midland-75-82...qid=1372900762&sr=1-1&keywords=midland+75-822

Same argument here. Is a good, tough, reliable in-vehicle radio (coupled with speaker/mic and external antenna), and is good on foot, comes with AA battery case, and covers NOAA weather and emergency channels. For being sneaky, get an in-ear system so no one hears your radio. But, remember, all radio is line-of-sight. The higher your antenna, the better. In any situation.

Food, oh yeah. Get meal bars that you'll be ok eating. I like cliff bars. A jar of peanut butter is good. The kid likes pasta, its light, quick carbs, and you can carry alot! but, it uses up water. And, utensils. (Who had the Spork??) a simple metal bowl/cup/pot works for holding hot stuff. I have a camp stove set up with gas fuel and two bowl/cup thing. I just cant feel comfy leaving it in the Tardis with our summer temps here in the big sandbox. I worry it'll go boom. Hence, the fuel tabs and foldable stove.

I disagree about a stove. A hot meal is nice but boiling water may save your @$$. As well, warmth is also, at night, a must. I really recommend solid fuel tabs over butane/propane type fuels. Smoke gives your position away. Gas fuels, however, are more manageable as per amount used.

Dhyde, has alotta good points to think about. Especially about maps n batteries. Oh, shoot... Multi-tool or fancy-dancy swiss army knife.

Also, remember, weight and (most importantly) WATER. Camelbaks, bottles, canteens, bota bags. Anything you can hang off of your pack or stuff into your pack.

Try to keep your hands free, just in case. I suggest weapons strapped to pack and/or thigh and/or calf (knife). Think Blade, the Daywalker, or LBE. A good system to both allow you to use your hands and keep weapons close at hand if NEEDED. Don't go looking for The Gathering. Remember, if your head comes away from your body... Speaking of, if a scenario of this sort really occurs, everyone is going to be in a sheer freak out/panic. Keep your cool. Don't talk to strangers would be a good Rick Springfield song to hum.

 

[NismoFire]

Also, remember that ONE gallon of water weighs 8.333333lbs. Keep that in mind when storing water in your BOB/GHB. Water purification tables weigh MUCH less. Sure, a 16oz bottle or two in the bag doesn't hurt to get you going, but finding a water source is muy importante, thus the need for purification.

 

[AZhiAZiAM]

Also, remember that ONE gallon of water weighs 8.333333lbs. Keep that in mind when storing water in your BOB/GHB. Water purification tables weigh MUCH less. Sure, a 16oz bottle or two in the bag doesn't hurt to get you going, but finding a water source is muy importante, thus the need for purification.

what about a camelback, think mine is one liter and i have an extra one in my truck, can't feel it on my back when its on with webgear and that's heavier than any bob.

 

[NismoFire]

what about a camelback, think mine is one liter and i have an extra one in my truck, can't feel it on my back when its on with webgear and that's heavier than any bob.

I'm good with it...just hate to see someone carrying around a gallon of water, ya know what I mean?

 

[AZhiAZiAM]

I'm good with it...just hate to see someone carrying around a gallon of water, ya know what I mean?

ya i'm picking up what your putting down. either way i'd still carry puro tablets

 

[Kuroi_Tora]

True, but those of us in Sandland need to carry as much water as possible. Few, safe potable water sources. Oh, and i forgot to mention have a headlamp. Mine has a red and a blue light in it. All led. Binocs too. But those stay in my astronomy kit which stays in the Tardis.

 

[AZhiAZiAM]

True, but those of us in Sandland need to carry as much water as possible. Few, safe potable water sources. Oh, and i forgot to mention have a headlamp. Mine has a red and a blue light in it. All led. Binocs too. But those stay in my astronomy kit which stays in the Tardis.

i'm in the sand with my truck when i dude most of the stuff. love me some desert

 

[Kuroi_Tora]

i'm in the sand with my truck when i dude most of the stuff. love me some desert

Us Desert Rat Sand Dancers really need to meet up! Who else is living on Tatooine? I guarantee El Paso/Juarez is Mos Eisley!

 

[AZhiAZiAM]

Us Desert Rat Sand Dancers really need to meet up! Who else is living on Tatooine? I guarantee El Paso/Juarez is Mos Eisley!

to bad i'm like 4 states away lol

 

[Kuroi_Tora]

Ooh, good point. Vegas one day?

 

[AZhiAZiAM]

Ooh, good point. Vegas one day?

when my rangers done, i'm completely down they have a get up there every year out in the sand. /endthreadjack

 

[dhyde79]

what about a camelback, think mine is one liter and i have an extra one in my truck, can't feel it on my back when its on with webgear and that's heavier than any bob.

Um...if you are packing for 3 days of survival and it weighs less than a 1L camelback (though I'd bet it's really a 2.0, 2.5, or 3.0L bladder not a 1L) I'm terrified for your survival prospects.

Clothing: long sleeve shirts, long pants, even in the desert.

Don't die because of exposure to the elements.

 

[dhyde79]

i'm in the sand with my truck when i dude most of the stuff. love me some desert

The point of a bob is getting out without your vehicle though. It's for when your truck is no longer safe, or you can't get it through an area where you need to.

 

[Kuroi_Tora]

The point of a bob is getting out without your vehicle though. It's for when your truck is no longer safe, or you can't get it through an area where you need to.

Ok, good point. I hadn't thought of that. I only think of making it in case of a breakdown or, as i did often in Montana, getting stuck cause I'm a dumbass.

Best shtf vehicle... Bicycle, ftw! I can't believe i just said ftw...

 

[jmnielsen]

Also in my BOB i have a cellphone/GPS/other stuff charger. You plug in a USB to the unit and you're charging. It can be recharged via a 110 outlet, solar, and wind. I spent a decent amount in it, but it is an awesome piece of equipment that could easily save my skin if I ever needed to use it.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B002RL88YK/ref=pd_aw_sim_cps_1?pi=SY115

You can find just solar ones for cheaper. But the ability to use wind opens so many more opportunities for recharging the systems internal battery.

 

[Kuroi_Tora]

Hey folks, can i get an opinion/thought/argument on this idea?
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qixiOqgZYQM&feature=related

http://www.amazon.com/GearPods-Wild...qid=1372942247&sr=1-22&keywords=emergency+kit

Just regarding simplicity, packability, useability, etc for beginners who know very little about wilderness stuff.

A quick word on non-solar chargers- http://www.amazon.com/iGo-powerXten...F8&qid=1372947830&sr=8-7&keywords=igo+charger

As someone recently intimated, to end an argument, being prior service (ex-military) does NOT automatically translate into field survival knowledge AND understanding. MOST of the military is combat arms support and NOT combat arms. And not everyone was light, or even mechanised, infantry, cavalry, Scouts, Pathfinders, Rangers or SF/SOG, etc. And as i learned in Montana, keep in mind that knowing how to survive in one climate (desert in my case) does NOT automatically become skill in another (what the hell is all of this snow n ice doing here???). If it hadn't been for my Wondertwin, i'd likely have been endangered rather than just challenged with an inconvenience. Good thing he was a prior service Ranger who'd grown up hunting n fishing in all of Montana and its immediate surrounding states and southern Alberta Canada. He taught me what i didn't know. Get to know your local hunting/fishing stores and see if they offer classes in their arena. Same for radio stuff.

 

[Kuroi_Tora]

when my rangers done, i'm completely down they have a get up there every year out in the sand. /endthreadjack

Ok, sounds like a 2014 plan... Maybe we can get alla da Southwest/Western folx to come play! And don't forget San Antonio Comicon in October this year! I'm gunna try to make it.

 

[Kuroi_Tora]

Um...if you are packing for 3 days of survival and it weighs less than a 1L camelback (though I'd bet it's really a 2.0, 2.5, or 3.0L bladder not a 1L) I'm terrified for your survival prospects.

Clothing: long sleeve shirts, long pants, even in the desert.

Don't die because of exposure to the elements.

Strewth, Mate! Sunglasses, sunscreen, hat!

 

[dhyde79]

Hey folks, can i get an opinion/thought/argument on this idea?
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qixiOqgZYQM&feature=related

http://www.amazon.com/GearPods-Wilderness-Black/dp/B00B7TUIVY/ref=sr_1_22?s=hi&ie=UTF8&qid=1372942247&sr=1-22&keywords=emergency+kit

Just regarding simplicity, packability, useability, etc for beginners who know very little about wilderness stuff.

A quick word on non-solar chargers- http://www.amazon.com/iGo-powerXtender-Universal-Battery-Operated/dp/B000O2X2OU/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8&qid=1372947830&sr=8-7&keywords=igo+charger

I'm trying to watch part one and two of the review videos now, I'll report back on my thoughts on the kit. It could easily be something that if it's cost effective I'd consider getting to attack to my existing bags...

For someone that's in knowledgable about survival in an area, the best survival kit in the world won't keep you alive if you don't know how to properly use it.

 

[NMTerras]

Two things: 1) I keep a couple space blankets in my bag. Handy in the desert for warmth at night, can be incorporated into shelter during the day if necessary. 2) FYI camelbak is one of the companies that aggressively opposes OHV land use. Think about where they are spending their money before you give them yours....

 

[dhyde79]

Ok, watched part one and two, and, the following is my impression. Nice kit believe it or not, **but** before you snatch it up, remember, it's meant to be a safety kit, not a escape/evade kit. It's geared (especially the "shelter" tarp) toward helping you get found. Now that's not a bad thing, you just have to plan for that. Easily done if you like to tie-dye. Make it camo yourself, or, black it out.

For $90, it's either great, or a ripoff. I'd bet that you can make a similar kit for much less yourself. Use "aloksak" brand scuba bags (super-duty ziplock bags) to store the stuff too.

 

[dhyde79]

Two things: 1) I keep a couple space blankets in my bag. Handy in the desert for warmth at night, can be incorporated into shelter during the day if necessary. 2) FYI camelbak is one of the companies that aggressively opposes OHV land use. Think about where they are spending their money before you give them yours....

Agreed, the only reason I use their bladders (not the whole packs, just the bladders) is that they have adapters for military gas masks and the "NBC" valve system where the bite valves are quick remove and you can have positive water flowing while changing (handy in dusty/sandy environments so you aren't drinking a bunch of particulate)

 

[Kuroi_Tora]

Two things: 1) I keep a couple space blankets in my bag. Handy in the desert for warmth at night, can be incorporated into shelter during the day if necessary. 2) FYI camelbak is one of the companies that aggressively opposes OHV land use. Think about where they are spending their money before you give them yours....

Good point. I had no idea about that. I use Osprey and an old Army surplus camelbak.

 

[Kuroi_Tora]

Ok, watched part one and two, and, the following is my impression. Nice kit believe it or not, **but** before you snatch it up, remember, it's meant to be a safety kit, not a escape/evade kit. It's geared (especially the "shelter" tarp) toward helping you get found. Now that's not a bad thing, you just have to plan for that. Easily done if you like to tie-dye. Make it camo yourself, or, black it out.

For $90, it's either great, or a ripoff. I'd bet that you can make a similar kit for much less yourself. Use "aloksak" brand scuba bags (super-duty ziplock bags) to store the stuff too.

Ok, thanks! Am thinking about folks who need an intro level hand. I got lucky with the Wondertwin and my brother in law (avid hunter/fisher) to teach me and come get me outta the fun i got myself into. But, i have a basic background in dealin wit it. What about those who don't? A primer, perhaps? KISS to help them build their E-gear set-up?

 

[NismoFire]

I don't remember if it's been covered here or not, but if so, it doesn't hurt to say it twice..


Your BOB should be updated EVERY SEASON CHANGE, or at least from Hot Wx to Cold Wx. Also, just because it's cold outside, doesn't mean you need less water. This is where people dehydrate more often, because they aren't hot, or aren't sweating too much because of the outside temp. Hydration is just as important during cold wx as it is hot. None the less, your spare clothing necessities will change with the climate change. Of course, just like mom always said, I keep an extra warm blanket in my truck during winter, especially when it snows. I also keep an extra fleece jacket (because I'm usually wearing my fleece vest) in my truck as well.

Another thing to keep in mind- SOCKS, especially if you're trying to get to a "distant" location. 3-4 mile hike isn't bad...but if I'm at work, and for some reason I wind up having to walk home, I have a 20mi hike ahead of me. Depending on the wx, that could take me 4 hours, or take me all day...and that's just to get to MY house. Once there, I can stock up on arms/supplies, etc (if necessary) and finish the 4mi hike to my parents' house, where the rest of my guns/ammo are stored. Now, I'm fortunate enough to live that close, and have that resource available to me...I realize not everyone else is, so PLAN AHEAD. Plan your route on foot from work, or from the kids' schools, etc. PRE-PLANNING will save your life just as much as having supplies. You could have all the supplies in the world and no plan, and die on Day 1.

 

[Kuroi_Tora]

I don't remember if it's been covered here or not, but if so, it doesn't hurt to say it twice..


Your BOB should be updated EVERY SEASON CHANGE, or at least from Hot Wx to Cold Wx. Also, just because it's cold outside, doesn't mean you need less water. This is where people dehydrate more often, because they aren't hot, or aren't sweating too much because of the outside temp. Hydration is just as important during cold wx as it is hot. None the less, your spare clothing necessities will change with the climate change. Of course, just like mom always said, I keep an extra warm blanket in my truck during winter, especially when it snows. I also keep an extra fleece jacket (because I'm usually wearing my fleece vest) in my truck as well.

Another thing to keep in mind- SOCKS, especially if you're trying to get to a "distant" location. 3-4 mile hike isn't bad...but if I'm at work, and for some reason I wind up having to walk home, I have a 20mi hike ahead of me. Depending on the wx, that could take me 4 hours, or take me all day...and that's just to get to MY house. Once there, I can stock up on arms/supplies, etc (if necessary) and finish the 4mi hike to my parents' house, where the rest of my guns/ammo are stored. Now, I'm fortunate enough to live that close, and have that resource available to me...I realize not everyone else is, so PLAN AHEAD. Plan your route on foot from work, or from the kids' schools, etc. PRE-PLANNING will save your life just as much as having supplies. You could have all the supplies in the world and no plan, and die on Day 1.

Mmm, good points.

 

[dhyde79]

Ok, thanks! Am thinking about folks who need an intro level hand. I got lucky with the Wondertwin and my brother in law (avid hunter/fisher) to teach me and come get me outta the fun i got myself into. But, i have a basic background in dealin wit it. What about those who don't? A primer, perhaps? KISS to help them build their E-gear set-up?

I just sent Drb a pm asking if we could set up a communal moderated "Wikipedia style" thread where we can all add and edit posts to compile a good tips/tricks/tactics/best practices thread/sub forum...we'll see if he thinks that's a good idea or if he wants to tap one or more existing mods to have them watch and compile it for us...

 

[NismoFire]

Wouldn't be a bad idea, especially since this started out as a list-style thread...not a "scenario" thread.

 

[Kuroi_Tora]

I just sent Drb a pm asking if we could set up a communal moderated "Wikipedia style" thread where we can all add and edit posts to compile a good tips/tricks/tactics/best practices thread/sub forum...we'll see if he thinks that's a good idea or if he wants to tap one or more existing mods to have them watch and compile it for us...

Did you just say "wants to tap" in -here-??! And I'm referring to Taptalk, btw.

If he gives it a Go... I'd like to provide some ham radio study links for the potentially interested parties.

 

[dhyde79]

Yes, tapping as in selecting them to carry the task.

We've got a few HAM operators on here, if memory serves, which, is something I'd like to learn more about.

We obviously have a decent share of outdoorsmen, who can share survival techniques for their environments of specialty, and I'd bet at least a couple of us have been throughout art schools where we were taught survival stuff as well.

I think it'd be a pretty good idea to have a group taught "survival school" at our fingertips...

 

[Kuroi_Tora]

Yes, tapping as in selecting them to carry the task.

We've got a few HAM operators on here, if memory serves, which, is something I'd like to learn more about.

We obviously have a decent share of outdoorsmen, who can share survival techniques for their environments of specialty, and I'd bet at least a couple of us have been throughout art schools where we were taught survival stuff as well.

I think it'd be a pretty good idea to have a group taught "survival school" at our fingertips...

I like the thought. Especially, unanticipated roadside emergencies. This is where, Id suspect, most of us might need the GHB n survival 'til help arrives skill set n prep. Depending on where it happens, it could be hours to a full day. I once had to sit tight in the backwoods area, in hip deep snow, overnight in Montana until the other Wondertwin got there to help me get free again. My bag meant the difference between misery/potential hypothermia n simple discomfort and reflection-on-my-stupidity time. But, i got some GREAT stargazing in that night!!! Totally worth it since i had the bag n such. Learned to keep kitty litter from that move.

 

[Jack Stilts]

Alright, I'm finally done compiling my list. My bag, the glorified fanny pack:



Maxpedition Fatboy.

After reading more responses in this thread, it's about what you NEED, correct? And comfort and mobility.

This has everything I need in it, along with my Camelback (which has a pocket for water purification tablets):

Compass, pistol and two mags, 12G shells, monocular, Sharpies, flash drive with encrypted and protected files (driver's license, insurance card, birth certificate, social card, CPL), knife, two flashlights with extra batteries, trail first aid kit, water purification tablets, ibuprofen, spare keys, lock picks, wire, wire cutters, phone batteries, electrical tape, matches, fire starters, zip ties, titanium spork, and 100ft paracord.

Keep it simple. My GRAB bag is basic - change of clothes, leather belt, playing cards (gotta keep your sanity somehow), vitamins, toiletries, pens, flashlight, batteries.

The Maxpedition is the B.O.B. That's the GO bag. I can comfortably wear my 1.5L Camelback and this Maxpedition pack ALL day with no issue.

For a comprehensive list of other items I keep in the Xterra, please visit this thread:

http://www.xterranation.org/showthr...us-end-of-the-world-stuff&p=114227#post114227

 

[Kuroi_Tora]

Alright, I'm finally done compiling my list. My bag, the glorified fanny pack:



Maxpedition Fatboy.

After reading more responses in this thread, it's about what you NEED, correct? And comfort and mobility.

This has everything I need in it, along with my Camelback (which has a pocket for water purification tablets):

Compass, pistol and two mags, 12G shells, monocular, Sharpies, flash drive with encrypted and protected files (driver's license, insurance card, birth certificate, social card, CPL), knife, two flashlights with extra batteries, trail first aid kit, water purification tablets, ibuprofen, spare keys, lock picks, wire, wire cutters, phone batteries, electrical tape, matches, fire starters, zip ties, titanium spork, and 100ft paracord.

Keep it simple. My GRAB bag is basic - change of clothes, leather belt, playing cards (gotta keep your sanity somehow), vitamins, toiletries, pens, flashlight, batteries.

The Maxpedition is the B.O.B. That's the GO bag. I can comfortably wear my 1.5L Camelback and this Maxpedition pack ALL day with no issue.

For a comprehensive list of other items I keep in the Xterra, please visit this thread:

http://www.xterranation.org/showthr...us-end-of-the-world-stuff&p=114227#post114227

Jack,
Very, very nice. I always giggle when i read Spork!

But, i have to give a caution on the lock-pick set. In some places, possession is grounds for a felony unless you're a licensed/certified locksmith. So, for me, those and the firearms are a no-go.

Please allow me to explain some of my reluctance before anyone gets to wondering. No, I'm not a felon/ex-felon on probation/parole and never have been. A felony charge suspends my professional license and a conviction terminates it. I have very bad luck with aggressive officers friendly and don't want the problems so I do my best to minimise their opportunities for fun-at-my-expense. Granted, i do carry my cheap katana and, when I'm doing an overnight or more than one county drive away from home, my Real Deal katana and my horse-bow w/full quiver. But, with they see that AND I'm in my kilt (almost all i wear on weekends), Officer Friendly usually rolls eyes, shakes head, and leaves me to my business.

Although I did get to do this dance on I-10 this weekend and got to have one threaten to "confiscate" my katana as an unlawful weapon but stopped when i asked that the supervisor be called out and asked permission to call my attorney. This was after their lie that i had run a stop sign and they forced an illegal search. Even cuffed me and sat me on the guardrail "for officer safety". Said they had the stop sign incident on dashcam but refused to show me then got pissed when they realised i had tape recorded the whole interaction. That was actually accidental on my part because i had been dictating case notes and forgot to turn off the recorder which i had stuck in my shirt pocket, which wasn't searched during the bs cuffing, during the unlawful stop and forced search of both me and the X. That's my kind of luck so this is why i shy away from certain items. In a normal set of circumstances, i have way too much to lose if they discover something they can play with to make my day go badly. Now, not all LE are of that stripe but I can't assume and be wrong or I lose my ability to feed my family and pay for my mods. What pisses me off is that these dudes give a bad name to LE as a whole but they keep doing it because they simply can.

/rant
/explanation

 

[Jack Stilts]

Jack,
Very, very nice. I always giggle when i read Spork!

But, i have to give a caution on the lock-pick set. In some places, possession is grounds for a felony unless you're a licensed/certified locksmith. So, for me, those and the firearms are a no-go.

Please allow me to explain some of my reluctance before anyone gets to wondering. No, I'm not a felon/ex-felon on probation/parole and never have been. A felony charge suspends my professional license and a conviction terminates it. I have very bad luck with aggressive officers friendly and don't want the problems so I do my best to minimise their opportunities for fun-at-my-expense. Granted, i do carry my cheap katana and, when I'm doing an overnight or more than one county drive away from home, my Real Deal katana and my horse-bow w/full quiver. But, with they see that AND I'm in my kilt (almost all i wear on weekends), Officer Friendly usually rolls eyes, shakes head, and leaves me to my business.

Although I did get to do this dance on I-10 this weekend and got to have one threaten to "confiscate" my katana as an unlawful weapon but stopped when i asked that the supervisor be called out and asked permission to call my attorney. This was after their lie that i had run a stop sign and they forced an illegal search. Even cuffed me and sat me on the guardrail "for officer safety". Said they had the stop sign incident on dashcam but refused to show me then got pissed when they realised i had tape recorded the whole interaction. That was actually accidental on my part because i had been dictating case notes and forgot to turn off the recorder which i had stuck in my shirt pocket, which wasn't searched during the bs cuffing, during the unlawful stop and forced search of both me and the X. That's my kind of luck so this is why i shy away from certain items. In a normal set of circumstances, i have way too much to lose if they discover something they can play with to make my day go badly. Now, not all LE are of that stripe but I can't assume and be wrong or I lose my ability to feed my family and pay for my mods. What pisses me off is that these dudes give a bad name to LE as a whole but they keep doing it because they simply can.

/rant
/explanation

Dang. I've never run into anything like that. I've always had really good experiences with LE

 

[Kuroi_Tora]

Dang. I've never run into anything like that. I've always had really good experiences with LE

If it weren't fer bad luck.... I'd have no luck at all. Except for the X! That's been great luck!

 

[Kuroi_Tora]

Alright, I'm finally done compiling my list. My bag, the glorified fanny pack:



Maxpedition Fatboy.

And here's one for SnickerDoodle:
http://www.amazon.com/Maxpedition-S...373236603&sr=8-10&keywords=Maxpedition+Fatboy.

I Like!!! http://www.ebay.com/itm/MAXPEDITION...501&pid=100005&prg=1088&rk=4&sd=231012253432&

And one to match the UV5R handy-dandy protable amateur radio that I keep trying to pimp/hip y'all to...
http://www.amazon.com/Maxpedition-S...373236603&sr=8-16&keywords=Maxpedition+Fatboy.

And, speaking of that radio, which like it'll fit VERY nicely in this pack....
http://www.amazon.com/BaoFeng-136-1...F8&qid=1373237285&sr=1-1&keywords=uv5r+yellow

And
http://www.amazon.com/Patuoxun-Shou...F8&qid=1373237285&sr=1-9&keywords=uv5r+yellow

And
http://www.amazon.com/BaoFeng-136-1...F8&qid=1373237285&sr=1-1&keywords=uv5r+yellow

And
http://www.amazon.com/NAGOYA-NA-771...8&qid=1373238033&sr=1-1&keywords=Nagoya+na771

And, finally...
http://www.amazon.com/Etekcity®-36...p_15_E2DB?ie=UTF8&refRID=1ZMD9733AXR80MS6ZBFN

/end pimpin' effort

 

[Maxterra]

I have a fatboy myself, that I always take with me.

Also recently got a rapid deployment bag set up with glock, AR and pistol mags always ready to go in the safe.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00CQ8IF8I/ref=mp_s_a_1_30?qid=1373288251&sr=8-30&pi=AC_SX112_SY192

 

[dhyde79]

Dang. I've never run into anything like that. I've always had really good experiences with LE

I have a local PD officer that for a good while he would pull me over to harrass me every chance he got. the last time he did it, I called his supervisor for him, as well as the captain and the chief and had them all join the scene, because AFTER he had handed me my stuff back then he proceeded to stand beside my X for about 5 minutes (while my daughter is in the back seat SCREAMING because she wants to go, wants food, etc) and I'm getting later and later to work, THEN he pops off with "uh, do you have any weapons in your vehicle?" to which I about lost my cool, and when he started to threaten to confiscate my XD, I locked the doors, rolled the windows up, told him he didn't have permission to touch, enter, or search my vehicle, and that the discussion would continue once his supervisor chain had arrived. The Chief was the first one there, then his Sgt, then the Cpt. The issue quickly was wrapped up. The officer has been put on administrative watch, every stop he does is reviewed on camera, and he's been informed that if he pulls my vehicles over, he's to immediately call for the supervisor, who will drop what he's doing and respond and handle the issue, which, my violation should be on camera, since he's required to leave his dash cam on at all times now. (lesson: don't piss off the guy who used to handle the city's cellphone account, especially the portion for the PD, cause he has EVERYONE's city issued cellphone numbers )

 

[Kuroi_Tora]

I have a local PD officer that for a good while he would pull me over to harrass me every chance he got. the last time he did it, I called his supervisor for him, as well as the captain and the chief and had them all join the scene, because AFTER he had handed me my stuff back then he proceeded to stand beside my X for about 5 minutes (while my daughter is in the back seat SCREAMING because she wants to go, wants food, etc) and I'm getting later and later to work, THEN he pops off with "uh, do you have any weapons in your vehicle?" to which I about lost my cool, and when he started to threaten to confiscate my XD, I locked the doors, rolled the windows up, told him he didn't have permission to touch, enter, or search my vehicle, and that the discussion would continue once his supervisor chain had arrived. The Chief was the first one there, then his Sgt, then the Cpt. The issue quickly was wrapped up. The officer has been put on administrative watch, every stop he does is reviewed on camera, and he's been informed that if he pulls my vehicles over, he's to immediately call for the supervisor, who will drop what he's doing and respond and handle the issue, which, my violation should be on camera, since he's required to leave his dash cam on at all times now. (lesson: don't piss off the guy who used to handle the city's cellphone account, especially the portion for the PD, cause he has EVERYONE's city issued cellphone numbers )

Exactly why I never have firearms and any medications I carry, i carry a copy of doc's scrip and they remain in pharmacy bottles in my bag in the rear. Too much insanity n not enough integrity or supervision to reinforce its need these days. Sorry all, didn't mean to vent. /end threadjack